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    Posted: 23 April 2006 at 9:12pm

I have not had any trouble with my 98c since I have had it. About 3 weeks ago I put on a response trigger and had no problem with it. This past weekend I was at the fields and every time I pulled the trigger the gun went crazy and I would have to grab the bolt to stop it. I took it apart and I could find no visible reason for the problem. Is there anything that you may know about this that would help me out; I will greatly appreciate any help.

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not too familiar with the rt, but i think you may need to tune it, read the manual on it it should tell you how
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i tuned the gun when i first put it on and it worked great for about two weeks.
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What does the sear spring look like? That sounds like the problem.
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^ or it could be the sear itself. Make sure your sear isn't worn.
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What is the sear?
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ok i know what the sear is but it does not seem worn in any way. i thought i may have mixed up the trigger spring when installing the response trigger but both springs do not work. the sear spring on my gun is the push spring (regular round spring) and not the pull (small spring with the 2 hooks).

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Originally posted by pitviper05 pitviper05 wrote:

ok i know what the sear is but it does not seem worn in any way. i thought i may have mixed up the trigger spring when installing the response trigger but both springs do not work. the sear spring on my gun is the push spring (regular round spring) and not the pull (small spring with the 2 hooks).



I'm confused.

Make sure everything looks like this



Also check the rear bolt. Make sure the edge the sear catches on is square.
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the sear i have for my gun does not look like that one. i cant find a pic of it but i hope someone knows what type i am talking about. It pushes the sear back up and doesnt pull it like the pic shoes.

my sear spring looks like this /VVVVVV\

not like this O/VVVVVV\O

does that help?

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If you look at the bottom of your rear bolt i think you will find its worn. I had the same problem and replaced it with a bolt from an older 98 custom and that did fix it on semi.
I have the same type of spring arrangement you do and replacing the spring didnt work at all. the sear looked fine but there was a distinct section of grooving on the rear bolt.
I bought this marker just over a week ago and will be putting it back together to send in for the tech guys to have a look at.
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i looked at the bolt and it didnt seem to be worn but i have an older 98 and it still works fine so ill try to exchange the bolt and see if that does anything.

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Originally posted by pitviper05 pitviper05 wrote:

the sear i have for my gun does not look like that one. i cant find a pic of it but i hope someone knows what type i am talking about. It pushes the sear back up and doesnt pull it like the pic shoes.


my sear spring looks like this /VVVVVV\


not like this O/VVVVVV\O


does that help?



Ok, I totally get what you mean. I was totally unaware of the spring change. Makes sense...but I still think it is possibly a worn rear bolt.
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but could a bolt wear out withing 5 weeks?
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It sure can...especially once it starts not catching...it gets exponentially worse.
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it may just be a weakened sear spring
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 hi , Guy's

PITVIPER05 i got the same problem as you with my 98c i got the response trigger as you and two weeks ago he start shooting crazy.

But i don't think it's the sear neither the bolt because mine are not rusty .

So if you find how to resolve your problem tell me .

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Originally posted by sniperb1 sniperb1 wrote:

 hi , Guy's

PITVIPER05 i got the same problem as you with my 98c i got the response trigger as you and two weeks ago he start shooting crazy.

But i don't think it's the sear neither the bolt because mine are not rusty .

So if you find how to resolve your problem tell me .

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rust wouldn't make a difference, its if they're worn or rounded off that they won't catch.
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i fixed the problem the hammer had been worn down a little. got a new one and now it works fine. thank you all for all the help.
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