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    Posted: 05 February 2007 at 4:57am

I'm by no means new to paintball, being a part-time gun tech for my local proshop and an independent tech, but I'm new here and I can't find what I'm looking for by searching...

I recently sold my A-5 (give me crap if you want...), but I want another Tippmann. I was looking at a 98C w/RT and ACT. Many people seem to be going with the Custom Pro though. I'm pretty knowledgable about Tippmanns, but I don't know what exactly the differences are between the two (other than the medium drop and double trigger). Could someone enlighten me? This will help me determine which one I'll go for.

Any help would be appreciated.

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There really is no difference between them other than the drop, the double trigger and the slightly better barrel.

Also if you were to get an old model 98 you could install e-bolt in it whereas the newer versions accept egrip. (The ACT versions accept e-grip too btw.)

The Custom pro's drop forward isn't that great; the double trigger won't help you with your RT, in fact it will make it harder to sweetspot and therefore you don't want it for the RT - just keep the single trigger, and the barrel sucks anyway and you'll want to upgrade that too...

So I suggest going with a 98 Custom or a 98 Custom ACT because you don't need the pro version as you will probably end up getting better upgrades anyway.


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your a tech and u dont know the diffrence? isnt that your job?
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No difference other than the drop, trigger, and barrel, all of which you can do without. I would say just go with a 98c w/ ACT and buy your RT with it. You can then upgrade the barrel and anything else to your liking.
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Originally posted by DsXz DsXz wrote:

your a tech and u dont know the diffrence? isnt that your job?
Of course it is. But I have heard people speak of OTHER differences besides the 3 obvious ones. I wanted to know for sure. Besides, I've kinda gotten away from Tippmanns for a while.

My previous A-5 had the RT (WITH the double trigger and no trigger spring- shot very well for me), Flatline, newer-style ratchet, and a few milsim parts. I've also worked on a number of A-5s and 98Cs. So I am well-aware of what aftermarket parts are available for Tippmanns and the order in which parts should be upgraded. I was originally looking at the 98C w/ACT and RT before I thought of the question. Seeing no other differences, I'm going with that.

Thanks for the info.- I appreciate it.



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Originally posted by glaman5266 glaman5266 wrote:

Originally posted by DsXz DsXz wrote:

your a tech and u dont know the diffrence? isnt that your job?
Of course it is. But I have heard people speak of OTHER differences besides the 3 obvious ones. I wanted to know for sure. Besides, I've kinda gotten away from Tippmanns for a while.


I think the thing he was getting at is this; If you're a tech (and not just a self proclaimed one) then you should know everything about the markers you work on. Even the most biased pro-shop sells tippmanns in bulk due to the fact that they are one of the most popular marker manufacturers on the market. I saw more than enough come through my shop where I was a tech for 3-1/2 years along with innumerable other markers. "Getting away" from one particular marker or another for your own usage purposes doesn't mean you won't be working on every other marker out there. I NEVER owned an Automag, but I can tell you the difference between a LVL VII and X-mag valve and know how to work on them, inside and out. There's a lot more to being a tech, which in all reality is an airsmith to a lesser degree, than just working on your friends markers.
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I work on plenty of markers- not just my friends'.

And I should have been more specific- I do know my fair chunk about Tippmanns, but I have not kept up much on the Custom Pro. And yes- that's my fault. But doing research and asking questions- isn't that part of being a tech? New products and technology are being released all the time. Not only do I ask questions for myself- I ask questions so I can constantly improve my tech skills and be of better use to my proshop. I can work on Custom Pros just fine- I just apply my 98C knowledge/experience. I just thought I'd ask about any small differences that I may not have caught.

I admit there are some markers that I just don't know anything about (more specifically Angels and Dye/Proto/SP spoolers). But there just aren't many people around here who use those markers. As a result, I can tech about 95% of the markers that come into my local proshop. My supplier noticed my knowledge and skills in working on the vast majority of markers around here and wanted me to be his gun tech.

...I don't need to explain myself further. I just asked a question to help me out and to obtain knowledge for future use- and it was answered.



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I wasn't attempting to be demeaning in any sense, just so you know. Just letting you know why DsXz said what he did. As for the electros you don't have as much experience in, I'd highly suggest getting to know them intimately. With the costs coming down every year, and the fact that you can pick up a used angle, DM, PM, or shocker/imp/ion for cheap over the internet, you're going to start seeing a whole lot more come into your shop. I remember when I was working the shop back in '01 and the wall was filled with mech markers and only a few 'timmies, a bushie, and an angel or two (and an e-matrix every once in a while). Now, the local shop's walls are filled with Egos, Ions, SP-8's DM/PM's etc. while all of the mechs now sit out on the customer's side of the parts cases. Only 5 years (in essence) have passed since then, but man, the tech has grown!
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Oh yeah. My proshop has been going though PMRs like crazy. I've been reading up a lot on them within the past week in case he doesn't know what he's doing or he doesn't have time to work on it himself (full-time night shift job, industrial mechanic).

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Matrixes are pretty simple so long as you aren't dealing with a fried board (then you just sell them a new one!) very simple system when it comes down to it. But boy-oh-boy do they like to eat o-rings.
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Matrixes are pretty simple so long as you aren't dealing with a fried board (then you just sell them a new one!) very simple system when it comes down to it. But boy-oh-boy do they like to eat o-rings.
So I've witnessed. Shockers seem to be pretty nasty o-ring consumers too. But the PMRs seem to be simplified a bit, so I think it'll be a slice of pie once I take one apart once or twice. Spoolers are just not that popular around here, so I rarely have a chance to work with one.

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Aren't all the new 98's packaged under the Custom Pro name?

The only difference is the the new ones have the anti chop system.
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Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

Aren't all the new 98's packaged under the Custom Pro name?

The only difference is the the new ones have the anti chop system.
No- the 98C is still packaged under the original name with optional ACT. Custom Pros are packaged under their own name. Again, with ACT as an option. Both 98Cs and Custom Pros are available to retailers/proshops.

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