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    Posted: 04 October 2004 at 6:25pm

Okay right now i have a TPI 98 Custom with a 2x trigger.

I was wondering if i should get a Spyder Fenix with the new Spyder T-Board.

The T-Board is tournament legal cause it is only semi auto and it is sopposed to shot 36BPS. If you can pull that fast.

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You wont shoot that fast without breaking paint like m0fo.  Seccondly, i havent heard much about the feenix so i dont really know.  I would say stay away from spyders if you already have a marker around that level.
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Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:

You wont shoot that fast without breaking paint like m0fo.  Seccondly, i havent heard much about the feenix so i dont really know.  I would say stay away from spyders if you already have a marker around that level.

t-board has eyes, but hell, everything fails once in a while. I wouldnt.

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I also found a bolt for the Fenix that says it dosen't chop so...
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Originally posted by and10217 and10217 wrote:

Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:

You wont shoot that fast without breaking paint like m0fo.  Seccondly, i havent heard much about the feenix so i dont really know.  I would say stay away from spyders if you already have a marker around that level.

t-board has eyes, but hell, everything fails once in a while. I wouldnt.




Eyes make no difference at those speeds.  It is capable if cycling that fast, but you would need an extremely fast hopper to get ripping that fast.  You will still break alot, hell in the T-Board video the guy broke atleast like 10 paintballs in the barrel from what i remember.
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Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:

Originally posted by and10217 and10217 wrote:

Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:

You wont shoot that fast without breaking paint like m0fo.  Seccondly, i havent heard much about the feenix so i dont really know.  I would say stay away from spyders if you already have a marker around that level.

t-board has eyes, but hell, everything fails once in a while. I wouldnt.




Eyes make no difference at those speeds.  It is capable if cycling that fast, but you would need an extremely fast hopper to get ripping that fast.  You will still break alot, hell in the T-Board video the guy broke atleast like 10 paintballs in the barrel from what i remember.

Yeah. I think it's a semi board only so i won't be able to shot that fast, but now that i think about it maybe another gun like a 04 vertical cocker.

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Well if your looking for something that is fast stock, go with a BKO.  A cocker is a great marker, but it takes money to make it faster, better..etc.
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Don't waste your money. If you want a different marker, get a 2k3 Cocker or something similar. It's not blazing fast, but it's still a step up from a 98 or Spyder, and isn't that pricy.
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It doesnt matter if you got the fastest hopper ever made an anti chop bolt or eyes out the ying yang youll never move your fingers that fast. So I would never consider something just because it is supposed to be capable of shooting fast, and if anyone has proof of someone shooting over 23bps show me...
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fenix isnt the best i'd stay away from spyders in general and believe me i dont think any human being can pull that fast!
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I'm about to purchase a Kingman Raven Primal.  I suggest everyone else who has the 500 bucks to do so (500 at xpaintball.com).

My reasons for buying the Primal, it comes stock with all of these following things:

1.  Electronic Grip

2.  Double Trigger

3.  Delrin Bolt

4.  Anti-Chop Eye

5.  Nitrogen Ready

6.  Locking Aluminum Feed Stack

7.  Capable of 22 BPS...Capable

8.  Drop Forward

9.  Low Pressure Kit

10.  At least 1 regulator (may be more, different pictures and diagrams of the gun everywhere).

Its fast enough for Non-Pro's.  Its Tournament Legal.  Its nice...Anti-Chop Eye.  I hate it when my shutter chops and the bolt sticks.  Delrin Bolt, self lubricating bolt...wow.

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Originally posted by Liquid Liquid wrote:

I'm about to purchase a Kingman Raven Primal.  I suggest everyone else who has the 500 bucks to do so (500 at xpaintball.com).


My reasons for buying the Primal, it comes stock with all of these following things:


1.  Electronic Grip


2.  Double Trigger


3.  Delrin Bolt


4.  Anti-Chop Eye


5.  Nitrogen Ready


6.  Locking Aluminum Feed Stack


7.  Capable of 22 BPS...Capable


8.  Drop Forward


9.  Low Pressure Kit


10.  At least 1 regulator (may be more, different pictures and diagrams of the gun everywhere).


Its fast enough for Non-Pro's.  Its Tournament Legal.  Its nice...Anti-Chop Eye.  I hate it when my shutter chops and the bolt sticks.  Delrin Bolt, self lubricating bolt...wow.

Umm most guns in the $500 price range come with the things you just listed. You would probably be better off with a B2K4 w/pds.
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You could make an even easier decision and get the new Fenix ACS. The board is capped at 20bps and it has an anti-chop bolt. If you get the T-board, cross your fingers that you drill for the eyes in the correct place. I know someone that sent his BLM to be drilled by a competent person and the guy still messed up the body. It took him over a month to get a new body from the guy and he still has no installed T-board. You'll need eye covers as well and the wires are strung outside the body.......a nice mess to have to clean if someone shoots your marker. So if you go this route there are many variables and it'll prolly cost you more in the long run for nothing more but bragging rights of a rof that you'll never achieve. I'm quite sure that you couldn't even shoot at 20 let alone 36bps -
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Stay away from all spyders. I have owned one and they are not reliable at all. 
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Originally posted by Liquid Liquid wrote:

I'm about to purchase a Kingman Raven Primal.  I suggest everyone else who has the 500 bucks to do so (500 at xpaintball.com).

My reasons for buying the Primal, it comes stock with all of these following things:

1.  Electronic Grip         Ju st a normal Spyder E-Grip

2.  Double Trigger         w00h00 ?

3.  Delrin Bolt         &n bsp;    most guns for $500 do....

4.  Anti-Chop Eye        Most Likely a big POS

5.  Nitrogen Ready       What gun isn't??

6.  Locking Aluminum Feed Stack  Thats why you buy a $500 gun....

7.  Capable of 22 BPS...Capable   B2K4 smokes it

8.  Drop Forward       most ppl dont like em

9.  Low Pressure Kit    B2K4 stock is REALLY low

10.  At least 1 regulator (may be more, different pictures and diagrams of the gun everywhere).      woah a regulator

Its fast enough for Non-Pro's.  Its Tournament Legal.  Its nice...Anti-Chop Eye.  I hate it when my shutter chops and the bolt sticks.  Delrin Bolt, self lubricating bolt...wow.



Yeah too bad is has the same stock barrel as my Fenix which SUCKS, same Regulater which doubles as an Xpanzi chamber, and try to get somebody to walk more than 11 bps with a spyder. I had a Spyder I loved it but for $500 get a B2K4. I don't even like ICD that much, but will still suggest it over a Spyder anyday. I go WGP all the way tho.
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Originally posted by 98cowboy 98cowboy wrote:

It doesnt matter if you got the fastest hopper ever made an anti chop bolt or eyes out the ying yang youll never move your fingers that fast. So I would never consider something just because it is supposed to be capable of shooting fast, and if anyone has proof of someone shooting over 23bps show me...

The DM4 can shoot over 30 bps.
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Originally posted by 98cowboy 98cowboy wrote:

It doesnt matter if you got the fastest hopper ever made an anti chop bolt or eyes out the ying yang youll never move your fingers that fast. So I would never consider something just because it is supposed to be capable of shooting fast, and if anyone has proof of someone shooting over 23bps show me...


I remember seeing a video of a cocker, i forget what the exact specs where but the one proffesional player was shooting at like 30+ BPS, dry firing that is.
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Originally posted by bartsimpson1238 bartsimpson1238 wrote:

Originally posted by 98cowboy 98cowboy wrote:

It doesnt matter if you got the fastest hopper ever made an anti chop bolt or eyes out the ying yang youll never move your fingers that fast. So I would never consider something just because it is supposed to be capable of shooting fast, and if anyone has proof of someone shooting over 23bps show me...

The DM4 can shoot over 30 bps.


Try 22-24 tops....
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