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Topic: Hey libs, I want a divorce...Posted: 24 March 2009 at 9:55am |
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Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al: We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way. Here is a model separation agreement: Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion.. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them). We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the pea ceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N.. But we will no longer be paying the bill. We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World. We'll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag. Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.. Sincerely, John J. Wall Law Student and an American P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda with you. |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 10:08am |
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Yep, clearly America is split evenly between only two sides. I for one welcome the simplicity it brings to your arguments.
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 10:10am |
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Que pasa?
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 11:33am |
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Go change your Depends or something.
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 11:41am |
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Excellant document from a Law Student. And I am willing to bet free health care that his proffesor only gave it a "c" because it did not agree with current popular belief. It would be an interesting experiment if a "Confederacy" again used it's rights based on constitutional law to secession from the "Union" based on the above standards, who would survive and thrive in today's world. Remmember by the definition of the times we were a group of 13 states (read as countries) who agreed to form a "Union" for mutual defense. Each had it's own currency, governments, and you were not an "American" you were a "Virginian", or "New Yorker". South Carolina was well within its rights based on the Declaration of Independance, and used Constitutional Law to seceed from the "Union" based on "irreconcilable differences".
But to many of the "sheeple" here, the intent of the original quoted writing is above their indoctronated education level or understanding. Edited by oldsoldier - 24 March 2009 at 11:43am |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 11:53am |
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That is a whole lot of wharbbl.
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 11:53am |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 11:54am |
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Whats wrong with Islam and Scientology that you guys don't want it?
DAGGUM MUSLIMS KURRUPTIN THE YOUTH WITH THERE TERRORIST WAYS |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 12:04pm |
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Collecting my thoughts on this thread:
I find it slightly ironic that the neo-conservative base, which called for American-unification post Sept. 11, has now gone full tilt into separation mode. Slightly indicative of what you actually care about more, country or ideology. If we are going to do a theoretical split though, then why not divide it via political affiliation. The red, conservative welfare queens can have their own land. Consistently, the red states draw more funding, while the blue states put in. If you want to play this whole "We are the strong ones of society" thing, at least go by the numbers. ![]() |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 12:05pm |
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I was waiting for someone else to be serious with this so I can put in a serious response.
To the author of that letter and all who support him: If you want all that crap, take it. It was non-religious practices and the sciences that your people discredit that have lead to the success of modern medicine. It was Calculus that lead to many discoveries about the universe that you also discredit in favor of nonsense. Since you hate all the things you say you hate, and Calculus was developed by people in those groups, we'll take that too. So it would be mighty hypocritical of you to have anything of engineering value. You can leave your guns at the border, thanks. It was freedom from religion that has lead us to the progress that we have today. In history, it was always the most religious societies that were oppressive. You can take your fundamentalist Christianity and shove it. We may not have utopia, but at least we don't care to live in the dark ages that you propose for yourself. Edited by Tolgak - 24 March 2009 at 12:07pm |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 12:06pm |
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BUT U LIBRALS WHINED ABOUT BUSH HE WAS A GOOD PRESIDENT NOW ITS OUR TURN QQQQQQQQ
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 12:22pm |
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lol. I kinda read that thing as a bash on both sides. The whole "letter" was a farce on both sides.
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 12:33pm |
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I can't believe I am actually responding to this (especially since Whale stole my intended response), but I am wondering what will happen with the Obama-supporting greedy firearms-company CEO under this division? He seems a bit stuck.
(oh yeah - he got fired. problem fixed.) |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 12:35pm |
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Could we not consider that once a secession occurs, and the dependance on Washington is severed we have an open immagration period where those in the Red States who are in the 1-3rd generation of the dependant class can immagrate to the "promised land", that would transfer the dependance on Federal Taxes to the states who prefer a dependant class.
Once the dependant classes move from the red states to the blue based on thier need for Federal assistance, the Red States would be more financially stable not having a dependant class draining the tax coffers. Based on the industrial vs agricultural base still present once the Red States become self sufficient and a tax haven for industry a welcomed migration of industry will begin, and employment and tax revenues will increase, and the reversal of fortune will begin as the current Blue states will become over taxed, under employed, dependant states. There is a book out stating that the South is still paying for the War of Secession by being punished by the North, has some merit, but a lot of it is a little over the top. I really do believe that if the Red States can relieve themselves of the Federal programs of dependance they can be financially solvent as the dependant class moves to the Blue State to continue thier current lifestyle of dependance. |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 12:40pm |
So the red states being more reliant on Federal aid is actually because of secret dependent-lifestyle-blue-state folk hiding out within the state and not the mismanagement at the local level, and certainly not the slight possibility that socially conservative policy does not equal good economic policy. Gotcha. |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 12:57pm |
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No, it is because of the industrial vs agricultural bases. Many corperations have thier offices in the Blue States yet had thier manufacturing in the less labor cost south. (Cannon Towels for example). Then moved the factories overseas, hense more unemployment in the Red States, more dependance, while little or no financial effect in the Blue States, and complaints about more money needed to support the red states. The Red States are not totally innocent in thier creation of a dependance class, but many Federal assistance programs foster that behavior instead of forcing the dependant to become self sufficient.
My contention is that once a secession takes place and the primary hard core dependant class moves to the Blue States, and industry returns to the more tax lenient Red States, employment will increase and a change of behavior will result as jobs become readily available, and profit margins increase as the tax rate on bussiness is no longer opressive to support a dependant class. There will always be the "hard core" dependant in any culture, we just tend to manufacture our dependant class for political gain. The War on Poverty, began in 1964 with Johnson's Great Society, should have been over long before Reagan, so explain to me what happened since the House of Representatives who control the purse strings have been the domain of the Democrat majority for all but 6 years of the war. |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 12:59pm |
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OS, I like how you say "once a secession takes place" instead of "if".
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 1:01pm |
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THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 1:28pm |
More like the midwest will rise up... piss and moan for the next 4 years then sit back down. |
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Posted: 24 March 2009 at 2:35pm |
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OS - really? Because here in the upper Midwest (mostly blue-state-ish), vast numbers of jobs have been shipped overseas over the last few decades. With the exception of Michigan (thanks, Big Three) we are all prosperous economies with low unemployement.
Could it be that our more aggressive social programs actually worked? Us capitalist types like to take action and take responsibility for our past and future. Or you could just blame it on the gubment, I guess. |
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