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Linus
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Topic: Wikileaks leaker arrestedPosted: 07 June 2010 at 5:39pm |
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Sorry that I can link directly to the story, on my phone, but the soldier accused of leaking the Apache gun camera footage has been arrested.
All I can say: hahahahaha |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 5:43pm |
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What was he arrested for?
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 5:51pm |
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Stupid forum, doesn't automatically turn addresses into links.
Screw hyperlinks. Edited by ParielIsBack - 07 June 2010 at 6:26pm |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 5:53pm |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 5:55pm |
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link isn't working for me :(
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 6:15pm |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 6:27pm |
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Thank you ROFL. I apparently can't use the interwebz.
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 6:39pm |
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It's disheartening, but one of the downsides of that whole whistle-blowing thing is that those who are at the other end of the blown whistle tend not to appreciate it very much.
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 6:40pm |
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he was arrested because the video that we had a thread (that lasted 20 some odd pages or some crazy number length) about turns out is BS. he took some random footage, added dialogue, captions, and some other stuff and passed it off as pilots shooting at civilians |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 6:46pm |
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I've not read anything about that. Link?
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 6:48pm |
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That peskey UCMJ. Soldiers are not allowed to release any news, statements, video or information in a war zone without clearance from the proper authority, ie the Public Affairs Office or Theater Command.
In today's viotile enviornment and the ease of altering photographs and video like was done, the UCMJ enforcement was inevitable. Once you are a member of the military some of your rights are lost, and you understand that when you read and sign your contract, and after the required classes during basic and annually after that. Violation is chargable under the UCMJ. |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 7:39pm |
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Disheartening my butt. He broke a law, released classified info, and put the lives of our soldiers at risk. |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 7:53pm |
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He put lives at risk?
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 7:58pm |
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Negative propaganda does put soldiers in a war zone at additional risk due to perception of the propaganda and the local populace response.
Co-operation goes down, security concerns rise, etc. |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 8:19pm |
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I don't think anyone is arguing this. Of course it was against the law to do what he did. It was also illegal to smuggle "U.S. - Vietnam Relations" out of Pentagon. The whole point of what I was saying was that whistle-blowing requires a sacrifice of some kind - even if it means jail. |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 8:24pm |
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Aww shucks. The video is a recording of something that actually happened. It is reality. |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 8:32pm |
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The definition of 'negative propaganda' is reletive, actions real or made up can and do have a serious effect on the troops involved and the locals. Reality in war is also an abstract concept, the winner writes the history, the detractors try and re-write that history. In todays instant video age, and under the rules of engagement and associated, 'feces occure', and it is up to the military to police its own and no let every piece of dirty laundry hang out. It may be against your journalistic view, but all things in war are not newsworthy if it is a negative for the safety of the troops involved, post war we can surgically dismantle the war and have at it.
Maybe volunteering for a tour with the troops as an imbedded reporter, and actually leaving the 'green zone' will change your view on this war, and the usual fiascos that occur in war. Edited by oldsoldier - 07 June 2010 at 8:34pm |
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 8:35pm |
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I watch and re-watch the Desert Storm on CNN and I never saw any of that Bravo Sierra they were selling, from all the amenities in the rear, to the actual 'war' footage.
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 8:37pm |
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I completely understand that the U.S. Military is going to try and keep things classified. No argument that it works like that.
I understand that those involved in the U.S. Military seek to keep things from being reported on. But it's a game of hide and seek. And when, through whistle-blowers or other means, that which is sought is found, the First Amendment and NYT Co. v. U.S. sets in.
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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 8:38pm |
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Ah, the old "You haven't been there, man!" approach.
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