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    Posted: 09 February 2011 at 8:34pm
So, left my job with Travinia today. Put in my two weeks yesterday and as per standard operating procedure in my industry, they asked me to finish out my shift today and then go on my way. I am now working for a small restaurant group doing my own food and own menus again, which is good for me. I'm also making more money and getting hella-good insurance as well as an opportunity to hit six-figures in salary in the very near future. In short, life is interesting but good.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote agentwhale007 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2011 at 8:42pm
What was the deal-breaker with Travinia?

Also, is it possible to find out where you work now? 

Also also, best of luck with the transition and everything. 
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Didn't you just start there? Why did you leave?

Well, let me rephrase. Why were you looking to leave? since more money and better insurance is a pretty solid reason to do it. Just curious
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Woah, your life moves fast.

Congratulations, I guess.  Best of luck with the new place.
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Quitting a job feels awesome. I love it, it's like a rare treat :)
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Well, essentially Travinia failed to mention one key thing when they hired me. That they calculate their BOH labor in a very non-traditional manner.

Normal BOH labor break down is as follows:

Hourly wages/Food & NA Bev sales = BOH Labor Cost

Note that it says "Hourly wages" meaning that salaried management aren't included in the equation due to the fact that they are managers and not labor.

Travinia calculates it as:
(Hourly Wages + Salaried Managers)/Food & NA Bev sales = BOH Labor Cost

Now, that may not seem to different to most, but when you have a team of higher-ups that are asking for 11% total BOH labor, it gets tricky. See, lets say it's slow, like February is prone to be. Average sales per week are topping out at about 35K/week in food and non-alc bev. That means if you want to keep your labor at 11% you can only spend $3850.00 on labor per week.

Now that sounds like a big chunk of change, but when you add 3 salaried BOH managers into the mix that make a combined $2384.00/week that only leaves you with $1466 to spend on hourly employees. Figure an average of $10.00/hr for said employee pay and you only get 146.6 man-hours to use. That means that at an average of 30 hours a week for hourly employees, you can only have roughly 5 employees on the schedule. That's not enough to run a PM line, let alone a whole restaurant.

So, due to poor accounting skills and failure to adhere to GAAP, I was working roughly 13-14 hours a day 5-6 days a week just to keep labor down. I figured out that I was getting paid something like $15.60/hr for the hours I worked (adjusted for OT) Simply put. It wasn't worth it.

My new job is running 3 restaurants. I'll still be in the kitchen, but not as a glorified line-cook and will be taking on new restaurants for the group as they emerge.

P.S. my newest restaurant which opens in May involves a smoker the size of most people's kitchen refrigerators.

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sounds like you were getting boned...hope this new place works out well for you. My cousin is in the same line of work in southern PA, he tells me the same sort of stuff...sounds like it sucks depending on who you work for
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Yeah, much like any other job in the world, who you work for is a very big part of how much you enjoy your job. The thing that gets me is that this company is on the verge of making it big (which is why I originally went with them) but without drastically changing some of their work practices, they're going to wind up being a case-study in some business school text book ten years from now.

Anyway, I'm back to doing what I do best, which is being creative and making people happy with their dining experience.
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A tallen cooked meal is definitely on the bucket list. 

Not to pry or anything but were the management Italians by any chance? (Travinia sounds kinda Italian) They are pretty notorious for their management style. If so, I feel your pain, can you imagine a Jap restaurant with thai chefs and a tally manager? As the go between I'm expected to know 3 languages, I'm looking for somewhere else.
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I doubt they were any more Italian than you.  Which is probably more Italian than most Americans, but still.

Last time I was in an Italian restaurant the waiter asked me if I was Jewish and then spent five minutes talking about his Sicilian Jewishness.  I really just wanted to order an appetizer, to be honest.
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Italian food is seriously lacking in Texas. The best I've found is Olive Garden :/

Here's hoping for a good future at your new job, Tallen.
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Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Italian food is seriously lacking in Texas. The best I've found is Olive Garden :/

Here's hoping for a good future at your new job, Tallen.


pfff. the steakhouses make up for it. Cattleman's near El Paso is great from what i've heard, but I never had a chance to get there when I went down
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Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

If so, I feel your pain, can you imagine a Jap restaurant with thai chefs and a tally manager? As the go between I'm expected to know 3 languages, I'm looking for somewhere else.

Here in the U.S. we avoid that problem in most areas by just making sure everyone who works at or runs a Chinese restaurant is Vietnamese. 
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These guys were about as far from Italian as you can get. The corporate chef is from Belize.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

 

Here in the U.S. we avoid that problem in most areas by just making sure everyone who works at or runs a Chinese restaurant is Vietnamese. 


There's an awesomely cheap Chinese place halfway between my girlfriend's place and mine.  I'm pretty sure it's run by Cambodians, but they're really very nice.  I always give them a 20% tip because I like them so much (although it's still all of $3-4 normally.)
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Tallen: I want some beef jerky that comes out of that smoker.
 
It sounds like you were quite miserable at the old place.
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Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

 

Here in the U.S. we avoid that problem in most areas by just making sure everyone who works at or runs a Chinese restaurant is Vietnamese. 


There's an awesomely cheap Chinese place halfway between my girlfriend's place and mine.  I'm pretty sure it's run by Cambodians, but they're really very nice.  I always give them a 20% tip because I like them so much (although it's still all of $3-4 normally.)

I cannot really tell the difference, visually or auditory, amongst Vietnamese, Cambodian and Laotian. I know that's terrible, but it's a thing. 


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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:


I cannot really tell the difference, visually or auditory, amongst Vietnamese, Cambodian and Laotian. I know that's terrible, but it's a thing. 


All white people look the same to me.

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Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Italian food is seriously lacking in Texas. The best I've found is Olive Garden :/Here's hoping for a good future at your new job, Tallen.


This reminds me, I can't remember who is in Seattle, but go to The Trattoria. Incredible pizza, straight out of Naples.
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I meant to ask earlier, how is your commute now, tallen?
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