Todd Akin

I think you haven't seen much about it because just about everyone on here finds it a moot point, the guy is a dumbass and (hopefully) will get what he deserves.

stratoaxe wrote: tallen702 wrote: I think you haven't seen much about it because just about everyone on here finds it a moot point, the guy is a dumbass and (hopefully) will get what he deserves. I was referring to a certain person who starts 10 page conspiracy theories on some vague comment but ignores things like this. As far as it being a moot point, it's far from it. There are lots of women's rights groups that are up in arms about this comment and want the GOP to distance itself from this guy. But the tea party has endorsed his "no exceptions" abortion policy and, as a matter of importance, so has Paul Ryan. This guy could very well become the face of the no exception anti-abortionists and really do harm in the November run.

A candidate supporting a no exceptions platform =/= endorsing Akin. Didn't Romney and the GOP already urge Akin to quit the race?

usafpilot07 wrote: Didn't Romney and the GOP already urge Akin to quit the race?

Yup.

I would like to know Tallen, by the time you reach the age of retirement, where will this mystery retirement money come from? How can any democrat or republican change that outcome? By promising more beneficiaries, on top of the mutli trillions?

We have made promises that we can't keep. Someone is going to getting screwed hard. Right now everyone is playing musical chairs. Hoping they music keeps playing long enough, that they don't have to witness the mad dash of securing a seat.

The assumptions here are just fun reading.....If this person or that person gets elected, this or that bad thing will happen. Depending on desired bias of course. Accept it you all are screwed, get over it, and the idiots you are electing are just digging the hole deeper, for you and your kids, all for the instant gratifacation need, and buying of votes. What does the 'future' concern them, they are getting rich in thier seats, so who cares. Time for them all to go, and the electorate rethink the entire purpose of this exercise.

impulse, the reality of the situation is that Ryan's budget calls for cuts to Medicare in an effort to cut the budget when the money can come from other sources. First and foremost, we need to curtail the military industrial complex practice of "just give us a blank check." Eisenhower warned us about the massive corruption and spending issues we would get into with defense contracting if we didn't watch them like hawks, and sure enough, he was right. Secondly, the US has some of the lowest tax rates in the world, and some of the most complex tax codes which leave massive loopholes for people like Mr. Romney to hide their money in. We need to simplify the tax code and make sure that we're getting all the money we're supposed to be to pay for the systems which need to hang around like Medicare and Medicaid. Once the baby boomers all die off, the situation will get back to normalcy where you have more people paying in than taking out. Honestly, the single payer healthcare option would have made this a moot point as much as I didn't realize it back then.

impulse418 wrote: Sounds like you would benefit from Ron Paul.

If you were to give me Ron Paul tempered a little more towards the middle, and minus some of the craziness, I'd take him in a heartbeat.

I'm really ready for the moderates of this nation, on both sides of the aisle, to realize that a union of cooperation resulting in a 3rd party would give them the power to set a straight, logical, and responsible course for the nation.

True. That's what scares me about Ryan as a VP. I don't think congress would do much to stand in his way right now. The House has already shown they're all for his "screw the future of our society" budget plan in an effort to make it look like they're trying to solve the problem by slapping a short-term band-aid on it. What is there to prevent him from pushing sweeping legislation through if he and Romney win? At least the Dems in congress were too damned lazy to do anything when Obama came into office, something tells me Ryan has too much vim and vigor to sit by and let this kind of opportunity pass him by.

Mind you, I honestly think this guy is going to turn out to become Romney's Palin in the end.

Obamacare cut 600 BILLION (wait I just looked it up and was wrong, it is actually $716 BILLION) http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Newsletters/Washington-Health-Policy-in-Review/2012/Aug/August-20-2012/That-716-Billion-Medicare-Cut.aspx  from medicare... That already happened, and will affect companies in 2014 (no wonder you haven't been getting as much mail from hospitals in your town...) They have been slashing their budgets in preparation for these cuts. 

Edited by FreeEnterprise - 23 August 2012 at 12:37pm

Clearly Akin is out there, but what I want to know is where did he hear this ridiculous claim in the first place?... That is so far out, that he had to have heard it somewhere.

That's what baffled me. Generally I'll give politicians a free pass because I think anyone can make a mistake on the spot, but there was no REASON to give this response. There's no need for the anti-abortion crowd to jump through illogical hoops-they believe that abortion is murder, so the response should almost always be "murder is wrong."

But again, this guy has a history of making unsettling comments regarding rape.

As far as Paul Ryan, I have mixed views. I sort of agree with Impulse here-mathematically the social security fund was doomed from the start. They were unable to calculate in variables like life expectancy and population so the system is lopsided and frankly a sinking ship.

So I have strong doubts as to whether I'll see retirement benefits regardless of whether or not Ryan writes the budget. What I would like to see is a move to a more conservative economic path and I don't feel Obama is the man for that job. But that's a whole nother argument.