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    Posted: 24 June 2004 at 11:09am
I saw in a another topic a custom board can make the A-5 do 30 bps whats a custom board and can the A-5 handle that the cyclone cant it can only do about 22 BPS. So would i have to take off the cyclone and put on on a HALO with RIP like the guy in pb2x magazine.
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Do you really need to shoot that fast?  The cyclone has problems around 25 or so.  And anything over that just stops feeding.  I'm ordering a few parts right now from Tippmann to see if I can fix the problem.  As far as the board... ITS CUSTOM.  have someone custom make one for you.

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Ummm the cycloe can only handle 15 thats why the E-grip is capped at 15bps
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Like who.         n bsp;  i Really want to keep keep up with the players at the feilds timmys and angels. I can only flank the newbs so many times before  they figure out who to bunker me with 62 bps. Whats a board anyway.  my freinds can put out about 24 and it would be cool to keep up.         

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Originally posted by j2duhr j2duhr wrote:

Ummm the cycloe can only handle 15 thats why the E-grip is capped at 15bps
Is that right?  Have you ever used an A-5 with a cyclone feed?  You do realize that I shoot much faster that all the stock E-grips around here?  The cyclone keeps up just fine until you get about 25bps.  Then for some reason it stops feeding.  I haven't figured out why yet.  The full auto mode on the E-grip just happens to be capped at 15.  The semi and other modes aren't capped at all.  Now I've been thr so many sears and rear bolts that I think the reason its capped at 15 is cause the internals aren't made to take that kind of abuse.

You dont need to shoot fast to keep up with those guys.  You really dont.  All you need to do is keep cool and aim.  If you want something faster than a E-grip, get a RT and them mod it.

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dtfastj...mmm just wonderin bout ur signature... an A-5 w/ R/T is only bout $300 aint it? D/T 20 and i think i seen a few flatlines at only like 120... but maybe u got ur stuff b4 i got my A-% n looked at stuff n prices change..plus im really bored so i thought i would ask :-p

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now if u programmed a e-grip to shoot 383643737bps thats great, but no matter how fast the e-grip can shoot, the gun can reach that limmit and neither can the feeder
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dtfastj...uhm the cyclone feed can't keep up at 25 bps. from my experience on this forum (little compared to some people) i have read some topics likethat and i have herd that it will only go  to 18. i think. 25 is just to much.

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Originally posted by jigglydude jigglydude wrote:

now if u programmed a e-grip to shoot 383643737bps thats great, but no matter how fast the e-grip can shoot, the gun can reach that limmit and neither can the feeder

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No the ballistic e-bolt for 98 custom made by ballisticsports can be fired at 30 bps, but the 98 custom internals wouldnt put up with that! Around like 20 bps they would start chopping

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Originally posted by Tippsy98 Tippsy98 wrote:

dtfastj...mmm just wonderin bout ur signature... an A-5 w/ R/T is only bout $300 aint it? D/T 20 and i think i seen a few flatlines at only like 120... but maybe u got ur stuff b4 i got my A-% n looked at stuff n prices change..plus im really bored so i thought i would ask :-p

Yeah, I need to just sticky the story at the top of of this forum lol.  Here is the short version.  I drove up to the paintball store.  The had many many many many markers there.  1500 Racegun Autocockers and such.  I tested them all out.  They were fast but need batteries.  So I asked the owner, "Is there a marker that can shoot as fast with out batteries or then need for a battery powered hopper?"  He showed me the A-5 I shot it loved the way it recoiled and kicked.  Especially the way it looks.  Bought it and all the modds they had for it at the time.  spent 1500 that day.  The proshop here sell everything at MSRP price.  I guess they need the money or something I dont know.  The only reason I still buy from the shop is cause I hate waiting next day for parts.  I'd spend the extra money any day to get my stuff today instead of next week.

I know the Cyclone cant keep up at 25.  Thats why I said the cyclone has problem at about 25 bps. 

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Originally posted by dtfastj dtfastj wrote:

Originally posted by Tippsy98 Tippsy98 wrote:

dtfastj...mmm just wonderin bout ur signature... an A-5 w/ R/T is only bout $300 aint it? D/T 20 and i think i seen a few flatlines at only like 120... but maybe u got ur stuff b4 i got my A-% n looked at stuff n prices change..plus im really bored so i thought i would ask :-p

Yeah, I need to just sticky the story at the top of of this forum lol.  Here is the short version.  I drove up to the paintball store.  The had many many many many markers there.  1500 Racegun Autocockers and such.  I tested them all out.  They were fast but need batteries.  So I asked the owner, "Is there a marker that can shoot as fast with out batteries or then need for a battery powered hopper?"  He showed me the A-5 I shot it loved the way it recoiled and kicked.  Especially the way it looks.  Bought it and all the modds they had for it at the time.  spent 1500 that day.  The proshop here sell everything at MSRP price.  I guess they need the money or something I dont know.  The only reason I still buy from the shop is cause I hate waiting next day for parts.  I'd spend the extra money any day to get my stuff today instead of next week.

I know the Cyclone cant keep up at 25.  Thats why I said the cyclone has problem at about 25 bps. 

 

Thats wrong^^^ the cyclone starts chopping at 18 bps!

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i heard its only suppose to go to like 15 but u could probally get it higher...if i had air i would go test it out on my A-5 with r/t
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No the cyclone doesn't chop at all.  I have never ever chopped a single ball in my cyclone.  Even when I got to the limit and when past.  When you get the limit of what the cyclone can feed it stops feeding.  I don't really feel like getting in to a debate but the cyclone doesn't chop.  Now I have busted paint in my barrel but never in the cyclone.
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ah thats chopping bud^^^^^^^ when your hopper cant keep up which in this case is 18 bps for the cylcone. Anways the bolt hits parts of the ball makeing it break then paint all goes in your internals and barrel.

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woah 25pbs, I think some on is Full of  Unless you Had like the Ultimate custom job on the E-grip I couldn't belive anyone saying there gun can go over 16pbs let alone 25?  And also whats the point on getting you Cyclone to feed at 25pbs??? Anything under 8 is good enough for me... I dont think there are very man guns that can reach 30 pbs anway... you'd have to have super sonic walking fingers to get that fast.
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Oh boy, the never ending debate of pbs again.....like what dtfastj stated earlier above...."Do you really need to shoot that fast?" 

And if you think about it, speedball tournys dont allow full auto modes on the player's markers, so whats the point of havin a marker shootin more than 15pbs and jus to let you know I read an article somewhere that a player suffered a concusion (hit 12 times to the head) from another player during a speedball match and that his marker was set on full auto.

And some of you more experience players know who Im talkin bout, the person who shot the guy 12 times was banned from the sport.

And the question still remains....Do you really need to shoot that fast? 

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Originally posted by paintballaluke paintballaluke wrote:

ah thats chopping bud^^^^^^^ when your hopper cant keep up which in this case is 18 bps for the cylcone. Anways the bolt hits parts of the ball makeing it break then paint all goes in your internals and barrel.

I know what chopping is and my cyclone has never ever chopped a ball.  The only time I have ever busted a ball was in my Flatline and that was shooting 1 shoot at a time.  The cyclone can keep up until the end.  Where it stops feeding.  What part of "stops feeding" do you not understand?  When you get up to past 20 the cyclone stops feed because there isn't enough air going to the cyclone to make it spin. 

With the RT and some simple mods you can get it to a rate of fire way over 20.  Some where close to 30.  But shoot down is so bad that at that the paint doesn't fly very far.  Take it from me.  I've done just about ever mod on the internet and some of my own to get it up past 20.  And it doesn't help anything if you can't aim.

And the brings me to the question.  Do you really need to shoot that fast? 

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I know I dont need to shoot any higher than 15 bps, but just for fun, what if you bypass the trigger so that the sear never catches the rear bolt. I heard of some one doing it to their sl-68 2 but since it's a pump, the bps is controlled. In a 98c or A-5 the rear bolt should move back and forth on its own so it would be like an un capped full auto. How many bps would that make? And with the polished internals would the gun be able to take it?  
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