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noobinator here asking what do x chambers and regulators do? plz dont mock me =/
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Expansion chambers allow CO2 room to expand, which helps prevent liquid CO2 entering you gun. Ultimately might help keep your velocity more consistent.

Regulators restrict the gas (HPA or CO2) to a certain pressure. Used for attaining a desired operating pressure and keeping consistent velocity.


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Originally posted by 5ptcontingency 5ptcontingency wrote:

Expansion chambers allow CO2 room to expand, which helps prevent liquid CO2 entering you gun. Ultimately might help keep your velocity more consistent.

Regulators restrict the gas (HPA or CO2) to a certain pressure. Used for attaining a desired operating pressure and keeping consistent velocity.

Couldn't have said it any better myself, I mean that seriously I'm so tired I can't see straight.
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Tippymaniac said it perfectly. That is exactly rigth don't listen to anyone that disagrees with him.
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well done tippymaniac dont forget expansion chambers also save u c02 so ur not shootin pure liquid co2
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Originally posted by 5ptcontingency 5ptcontingency wrote:

Expansion chambers allow CO2 room to expand, which helps prevent liquid CO2 entering you gun. Ultimately might help keep your velocity more consistent.

Regulators restrict the gas (HPA or CO2) to a certain pressure. Used for attaining a desired operating pressure and keeping consistent velocity.
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I would like to paste in some text I borrowed off the Palmer's website.  Food for thought...  You might want to consider an anti-siphoned tank and a stabilizer.

 

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An Expansion chamber can over expand the CO2 and reduce the saturation of liquid within the gas. So when you fire the ball, the gas has less potential energy when released.  Therefore you must use more volume of gas with an expansion chamber. Another problem with expansion chamber is that once they fill up with liquid it's no longer an expansion chamber. Once Co2 is regulated under 600 psi it can no longer remain a liquid. Most remotes have a small hole, so they don't expand the gas too much.  

A Stabilizer out performs an expansion chamber simply because it regulates the pressure within the marker. If you can keep the pressure consistent your velocity will be more consistent. Consistency equals accuracy. The Stabilizers also have a 70-1 ratio. So if your input pressure changes 70 psi your regulated output will only change 1 psi.  Most other regs only have 30-1 ratio. So in short an expansion chamber is nothing more than a waist of gas.

Visit http://www.palmer-pursuit.com if you want to read their whole FAQ.



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Originally posted by cieldric cieldric wrote:

I would like to paste in some text I borrowed off the Palmer's website.  Food for thought...  You might want to consider an anti-siphoned tank and a stabilizer.

 

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An Expansion chamber can over expand the CO2 and reduce the saturation of liquid within the gas. So when you fire the ball, the gas has less potential energy when released.  Therefore you must use more volume of gas with an expansion chamber. Another problem with expansion chamber is that once they fill up with liquid it's no longer an expansion chamber. Once Co2 is regulated under 600 psi it can no longer remain a liquid. Most remotes have a small hole, so they don't expand the gas too much.  

A Stabilizer out performs an expansion chamber simply because it regulates the pressure within the marker. If you can keep the pressure consistent your velocity will be more consistent. Consistency equals accuracy. The Stabilizers also have a 70-1 ratio. So if your input pressure changes 70 psi your regulated output will only change 1 psi.  Most other regs only have 30-1 ratio. So in short an expansion chamber is nothing more than a waist of gas.

Visit http://www.palmer-pursuit.com if you want to read their whole FAQ.



Keep in mind that Palmer's is biased, and for obvious capitalist reasons, wants people to buy a palmer reg, not another company's expansion chamber. That's not to say palmer's aren't great, but the statement directly calls expansion chambers detrimental to performance.
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