How freakin stupid....

You act like bush is interested in safety of the country.

Iraq was just a bait and switch to turn everyones attention back to what a "badass terrorism killer" he is, when it looked like we werent going to catch bin laden in time to satisfy the american publics idiotic attention span.

N Korea would actually put up a fight, i havent decided if bush is too big of a sissy to tackle them, or if hes crazy enough to do something stupid and get us all nuked.

I dunno about you, but id rather not get nuked.

no nukes for blood
...orwas it oil....or food...gah i cant remember bushes policies

Enos Shenk wrote: You act like bush is interested in safety of the country. Iraq was just a bait and switch to turn everyones attention back to what a "badass terrorism killer" he is, when it looked like we werent going to catch bin laden in time to satisfy the american publics idiotic attention span. N Korea would actually put up a fight, i havent decided if bush is too big of a sissy to tackle them, or if hes crazy enough to do something stupid and get us all nuked. I dunno about you, but id rather not get nuked.

yeah... except no.  Obviously you have been sniffing gasoline.  Bush doesnt want to be a badass terrorist killer, he does whats right for the United States and the people of Iraq, who, if you were unaware, were being tortured and raped under Saddams reign.  Yeah, I said it, taking out Iraq was good for the American people because the Taliban had links and support from Iraq, not to mention Saddam had the capability of making weapons of mass destruction. Compare this to WWII, Japan bombed us, and we didnt just go after them, we declared war on Germany too.  God you guys make me sick sometimes.

Oh and make up your mind... do you want Bush to go after N. Korea, or leave em be?  Its not like theres only two choices: Go all out and have a nuclear war, or do nothing.  GEEZ!

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Enos Shenk wrote: You act like bush is interested in safety of the country. Iraq was just a bait and switch to turn everyones attention back to what a "badass terrorism killer" he is, when it looked like we werent going to catch bin laden in time to satisfy the american publics idiotic attention span. N Korea would actually put up a fight, i havent decided if bush is too big of a sissy to tackle them, or if hes crazy enough to do something stupid and get us all nuked. I dunno about you, but id rather not get nuked.

I agree with Enos in a way.  Even me being pro-bush and all.  If you going to go into Iraq because the pose a threat, the you should do the same from other threatening countries as well.

But it would go the same for any other Pres. we might have.  "Hes to reluctant, hes scared, take them before they take us".

Either way we were screwed.

I support getting Sadam out of power, I don't support the yo-yo reasons they have given for it.

Admit it. They went in for oil.

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No WMD. No WMD programs. No ability to produce WMD's.

A soft target that should have been easy.

1000 KIA later, the country is apparently 2 years away from civil war if the US withdraw.

They started it, they better sort it out before they leave.

KBK

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If my American bros ever start "relying" on the U.N. for defense and security, then God help them.

For an example of this, just look at how successful the U.N. is in Africa?

The bottom line is that Saddam as demonstrated by his actions was a threat to the West. Even the crazy lunatic Kim IL has not actually used WMD on people as Saddam has. Some would argue that Kim is crazier then Saddam, that may be true, but we have never seen him cross the Saddam threshold and "USE" WMDs...

   As for your oil arguments, the oil "Factor" is that it provided incredible world influence and funding for Saddam and his terrorist ambitions against democracies.

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Not just North Korea, but what about the Genocide going on in Africa? Its as if no one cares. The nightly news never even metions it. It seems as though only the news on pbs does...

Ricin.rpf wrote: Not just North Korea, but what about the Genocide going on in Africa? Its as if no one cares. The nightly news never even metions it. It seems as though only the news on pbs does...

That’s how the U.N. handles these things; there was a resolution that was vetoed to deal with Africa. So nothing happens.

This why when I hear American comments about passing the Global test, IE. U.N. approval.
That kind of talk in a simple word, bugs me...





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to...leak...out...must...stop...flow...of...truth...until...

after...the...election...*gasp* *wheeze* - G.W.

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Yes it's about oil. It's about the region producing almost all the oil used by the world. It's about the fact that if that region went up in flames, then the US (and the rest of the world) would be well and truly screwed because we'd have to find some source of energy. Russia would definately come out ahead in this though, since they have an unknown amount of oil in Siberia that they can't really afford to drill for. Venezeula would do nicely, since they are the only non-Middle East country that is a member of OPEC (IIRC). France doesn't really have to worry since they were so xenophobic in the 70's that they produce around 70% of their electricity by nuclear power plants. Without oil in this region, we wouldn't really care what happens. The same basic thing as Africa. A little more since we'd still have an interest in keeping Israel from being destroyed from being invaded by every neighboring country, but maybe not since those countries wouldn't have the money to buy any tanks or airplanes.

We're pulling out troops from Korea, because there's no real reason to keep them there. For a long while after the war, the S. Korean Army was pretty small and poorly trained and equipped. Now, they have modern equipment, and are decently trained. We haven't really had enough troops in Korea to be more than a speed bump anyway, even when we have the full 2nd ID there. Te be an actual deterrent from some real agreesion (assuming no other military forces but us) it would take something like 5 divisions. Maybe one armored, one mech, and 3 of light, airborne, or air-assault. This is just my guess of course.