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    Posted: 07 October 2004 at 6:45pm

im pondering over what to do with the exterior of my tippy.

i was thinking during school what it would look like if u polished the outside of ur gun and made it like a mirror?  but it might rust. so if any one has seen the new doritos(chips) the bag color looks like a realy cool color for a 98c.  and was also wonderin if u could put a clearcoat over the polished thingy and maybe/hopefully keep it from rustin

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the color of the chip bag is kind of a shiny charcole color



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Welcome to the forum. You could polish your gun, and I dont think it will rust. Ask enos about it, he has a polished pro-carbine and it looks great.
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polishishing it wont make it mirror shiny, it dosent look that good too. the reciver halves are aluminum which will never rust.

to make it mirror shiny, you could try powdercoating in chrome. but im not sure if it would stick.
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ya anodizing a tippmann wont work cuz it is made of aluminum and the other guns i guess r made of stainless steel. the problem is that the anodize wont penitrate the pore of the metal and wont stick. but you could always spray paint it. its up to u.
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call me stupid but i thought anodizing was meant for aluminum guns   like cockers and mags and such?

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The stock black paint on a 98c is a powdercoat, therfore, you should get a chrome powdercoat, also, you CAN polish your 98 and make it look like a mirror, go to model98.net, and look around there is instructions on how to make it like a mirror, also, jin the forum, its sweet.
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Originally posted by Bigomondis104 Bigomondis104 wrote:

ya anodizing a tippmann wont work cuz it is made of aluminum and the other guns i guess r made of stainless steel. the problem is that the anodize wont penitrate the pore of the metal and wont stick. but you could always spray paint it. its up to u.




Ummmmmmm, where did you get your facts from?

Anodizing is designed for aluminums, and is the prefered surface finish for aluminum.

I have never dealt with anodizing a cast aluminum or seen it such as on a Tippmann, but I have had many machined parts anodized for my job and it's about the best surface finish you can get. Very durable, resists corrosion very well and doesn't break down easily.
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Originally posted by POON POON wrote:

The stock black paint on a 98c is a powdercoat, therfore, you should get a chrome powdercoat, also, you CAN polish your 98 and make it look like a mirror, go to model98.net, and look around there is instructions on how to make it like a mirror, also, jin the forum, its sweet.


Chrome isn't powdercoat. Chrome is a chemical mixture of a chromium ion suspended in a solution that is electroplated onto a surface by switching out surface atoms of a material for the chromium. Powder coating uses an ionized "paint" that is then baked on to for a clean, hard, smooth surface.

*EDIT* Upon researching the topic, I actually found out that someone developed a "chrome powder coat" I am not sure if it's still the same sway of atom ions, but it appears to be just as viable a solution to traditional chroming. Cool.

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You can chrome plate the exterior of any marker and it wouldnt hinder the performance at all....but, its gonna cost you big bucks, if thats what yer asking about.
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k thanks

and a 98 is made out of like 5or 6 different metals thats y u cant weld on a tippy cause some of the metals will melt and the rest will just crumble.  i dont no about anoing cause i dont no how it work

P.S. im gona polish down the part on the rear grip so wear if it doesnt look like i want it to it wont matter cause ill have my grips over it

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I've seen a Tippmann that has been stripped of it's paint and it does NOT look good. Please scratch that idea. If you do anything, paint it or anodize it if this turns out to be possible.
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Originally posted by llama llama wrote:

and a 98 is made out of like 5or 6 different metals thats y u cant weld on a tippy cause some of the metals will melt and the rest will just crumble.




Huh? The body is only one type of metal, and that is cast aluminum, which you can definitely weld if you take care. I know, I have done it many times before.
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well maybe they didnt polish it.  im not just stripping the powder coat im polishing it

ill post pics when im done

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Oh, ok. Go for it then.
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Originally posted by SnakeEyes SnakeEyes wrote:

Originally posted by llama llama wrote:

and a 98 is made out of like 5or 6 different metals thats y u cant weld on a tippy cause some of the metals will melt and the rest will just crumble.




Huh? The body is only one type of metal, and that is cast aluminum, which you can definitely weld if you take care. I know, I have done it many times before.


Cast aluminum = Allow of aluminum, magnesium, zinc, tin, and various other metals.

And since tin has a melting point of 230* C, zinc has a melting point of 430* C, megnesium has a melting point of 650* C, and aluminum has a melting point of 660 *C, I don't see how you could possibly weld it.

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What do you think 6061 or 7075 Aluminum is? It's just a different combination of Aluminum, Tin, Bronze, etc. There is no such thing as pure aluminum being used in production parts such as paintball guns or anywhere else. It's too soft, and doesn't have any wear or fatigue properties. All Aluminum is an alloy, just like Steel and most every other metal used in production.

If Aluminum isn't weldable, then how did I create my vert feed, or how did Milkman make his Warp Feed attachment, or Mike Barch have his vert feed?

You can weld it, and you can easily weld it if you know what you are doing.
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well if u play woods ball shiny is not a good idea try a flat camo
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Originally posted by SnakeEyes SnakeEyes wrote:

What do you think 6061 or 7075 Aluminum is? It's just a different combination of Aluminum, Tin, Bronze, etc. There is no such thing as pure aluminum being used in production parts such as paintball guns or anywhere else. It's too soft, and doesn't have any wear or fatigue properties. All Aluminum is an alloy, just like Steel and most every other metal used in production.

If Aluminum isn't weldable, then how did I create my vert feed, or how did Milkman make his Warp Feed attachment, or Mike Barch have his vert feed?

You can weld it, and you can easily weld it if you know what you are doing.


How do you weld an alloy that has that big of a difference in melting tempatures? I don't see how it would work.
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Well do you agree that aluminum can be welded? Haven't you seen it before?

The reason why you can weld an alloy with so many varying melting temperatures is because there is no distinct line between where each element ends and the next begins. When you alloy a metal, things occur on molecular levels that change the metal. When you alloy tin, copper, nickle, etc into pure aluminum the molecular structure changes. The metal no longer behaves like pure aluminum, it acts as a whole. When you weld it, some of those lower melting point metals will vaporize out of the weld pool and be replaced by what ever filler aluminum is present.

That is the short answer to an infinitely long question. There is a ton more going on in there that I either don't care to go into or don't remember enough of from my material science classes to put in here. But aluminum is entirely weldable, otherwise we wouldn't have torpedoes, automobiles, space shuttles, high performance bicycles, motorcycles, etc etc etc.
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So basically, an alloy will have its own melting temperature as a whole, instead of all the metals melting at different temperatures?
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