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    Posted: 09 October 2004 at 4:44pm

I'm planing on buying an flatline this winter.  Does any one want to talk me out of it? any one want to talk me into it???

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i would recomend getting it for the warm season, but you will break alot in the cold, because the balls are more brittle.
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Originally posted by triggerhappy1 triggerhappy1 wrote:

i would recomend getting it for the warm season, but you will break alot in the cold, because the balls are more brittle.

You got it backwards. vice versa. But are you getting it for the 98 or the a5? Not much difference, nvm. My flatline shoots great but you have to keep your velocity down and use good paint(Marbs,traxxus,diablo) or else you will break balls in the barrel and your shots will be all over the place. I have had problems in the past of the balls bouncing off people at like 250 ft away but I just shoot them again and it only happened twice.

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I dont care either way , but dont be expecting a greatly extended effective range with the flatline . tha ball wont break upon impact one foot farther than it would've ,if shot out of a regular aftermarket barrel . The flatline will shoot flatter , farther in overgrowth type brush , because of the aerodynamics of the spin it puts on the ball ,so a lot depends on what type of game you play most often . Hate to see people buy into Hype , buy the product , not the image..
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Originally posted by triggerhappy1 triggerhappy1 wrote:

i would recomend getting it for the warm season, but you will break alot in the cold, because the balls are more brittle.

i know when it gets warm and when it gets cold.  the idea is to get it at the end of winter and the begining of sping (i hope to find a deal). and why would i be getting a 98 flateline for my a-5? and i play with a guy who has one on his a-5 and he uses zap paint ... he's never broke a ball

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just get it if you want some extra range, perfect for woodsball if you play it.  its all up to you really if you want it get it.
if it moves it becomes a target

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get it... my only negative is that you have to keep it very clean.
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o i will keep it clean
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yeah i dont think its hyped at all. it does what it says and that is it shoots flat more or less for about 100 feet. i love mine for shooting through bush and stuff. i basicaly see it as we see in a strait line and therefor try to aim in a strait line so why would we want a barrel that makes us lob balls for medium range combat.
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well i am going to get it.  i've read in some threads about people saying they've shot people with their flatlines and had them catch it or bounce off.  well the way i see it is if the ball leaves the barrel at 275 fps and the backspin of the barrel will resist gravity for about 150-175 ft of flatline trajectory then it will go 200 ft but how fast will it be going then? u can take a ball and thow it and it will break so it probably only needs to be moving at 15-30 fps to break
summary: i cant really see the balls bouncing off or ppl being able to catch them before gravity pulls them to the ground
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i would not get it if it was my money. maybe if it comes down in price
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ya get it you would get more range and perfect for woodsball... its helped me alot... dont forget to make sure its clean
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Originally posted by DrunkDriver DrunkDriver wrote:

i would not get it if it was my money. maybe if it comes down in price

It already did come down in price. It went from $150 to $120. At least where I am; IDK about other places.

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yeah well i'm in Ontario so prices are a little different.  but would u pay duty on a flatline coming over the boarder? cause even with the exchange it would probably be cheaper.  i saw it for 177 + tax Canadian and i saw it for 115 yankee.  so i would save money but it wouldnt be worht it if there was duty on it
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Originally posted by Detz Detz wrote:

well i am going to get it.  i've read in some threads about people saying they've shot people with their flatlines and had them catch it or bounce off.  well the way i see it is if the ball leaves the barrel at 275 fps and the backspin of the barrel will resist gravity for about 150-175 ft of flatline trajectory then it will go 200 ft but how fast will it be going then? u can take a ball and thow it and it will break so it probably only needs to be moving at 15-30 fps to break
summary: i cant really see the balls bouncing off or ppl being able to catch them before gravity pulls them to the ground

This always comes up... paintballs are slowing down the moment they leave any barrel.  So yes, the flatline is more likely to bounce or "be caught" when shooting at the maximum range.  And we all know it's relatively easy to dodge any paintballs coming at us from a distance... now add the extra distance that the flatline shoots and it's even easier.  But I say, so what?  If someone is dodging or catching paintballs, then they're probably not shooting at you or your teamates.  That's really the point of shooting the flatline at maximum range anyway.  And you may actually get a kill.

I once saw some show...  I think it was Ripley's Believe It or Not.  Some Ninja dude was trying to beat the world record for catching paintballs.  At a fairly close range, he just used his hands and stomach to absorb the impact and I think he caught about 10 paintballs.  The point is that it's possible with any gun/barrel.

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Originally posted by rmorey rmorey wrote:

Originally posted by Detz Detz wrote:

well i am going to get it.  i've read in some threads about people saying they've shot people with their flatlines and had them catch it or bounce off.  well the way i see it is if the ball leaves the barrel at 275 fps and the backspin of the barrel will resist gravity for about 150-175 ft of flatline trajectory then it will go 200 ft but how fast will it be going then? u can take a ball and thow it and it will break so it probably only needs to be moving at 15-30 fps to break
summary: i cant really see the balls bouncing off or ppl being able to catch them before gravity pulls them to the ground

This always comes up... paintballs are slowing down the moment they leave any barrel.  So yes, the flatline is more likely to bounce or "be caught" when shooting at the maximum range.  And we all know it's relatively easy to dodge any paintballs coming at us from a distance... now add the extra distance that the flatline shoots and it's even easier.  But I say, so what?  If someone is dodging or catching paintballs, then they're probably not shooting at you or your teamates.  That's really the point of shooting the flatline at maximum range anyway.  And you may actually get a kill.

I once saw some show...  I think it was Ripley's Believe It or Not.  Some Ninja dude was trying to beat the world record for catching paintballs.  At a fairly close range, he just used his hands and stomach to absorb the impact and I think he caught about 10 paintballs.  The point is that it's possible with any gun/barrel.

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Originally posted by Shadowminion Shadowminion wrote:

I dont care either way , but dont be expecting a greatly extended effective range with the flatline . tha ball wont break upon impact one foot farther than it would've ,if shot out of a regular aftermarket barrel . The flatline will shoot flatter , farther in overgrowth type brush , because of the aerodynamics of the spin it puts on the ball ,so a lot depends on what type of game you play most often . Hate to see people buy into Hype , buy the product , not the image..

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Bcuz its been written somewhere , doesnt make it true , Jeez !! The Flatline wont have ANY more effective range , and thats SIMPLE physics , If all you can do ,is point to what somebody elses opinion is , Then what business you got calling me Dumb ? Think before you post ..

Assuming the same velocities , from the same frame marker , A5, 98C Take yer choice :

1. you have the same leaving barrel velocity , both barrels.

2. Drag caused by friction of air molecules slows down the paintball , no matter what the spin is , in fact without this drag , the flatline wouldnt have the flat trajectory it does . The further the paintball goes, the slower it gets .

3 gravity acts on all things , a pound of lead ,falls as fast as a pound of anything else , Doh !!

4. Impact energy = Velocity x mass . we adressed velocity and drag in #2 above .

5. If there is enough Kinetic energy left upon impact  , the ball breaks , if not you got a bounce . Doh !! This is called impact energy .

Splain to me Harvard Boy , how a flatline can make a ball break farther out ?!?

 

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Originally posted by Shadowminion Shadowminion wrote:

3 gravity acts on all things , a pound of lead ,falls as fast as a pound of anything else , Doh !!

Only in a vacuum, Einstein...

Splain to me Harvard Boy , how a flatline can make a ball break farther out ?!?

Nobody said that

Your other points are true, but irrelevant.

There is no "hype" about the flatline.  It works as advertised: "adds 100 ft of flat trajectory - GUARANTEED".

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it cant ... but whos to say if u took a huge lob shot with ur stock a-5 and it went 175-200 ft that it wouldnt break.  i've tried it, they do. therfore they will go flat and still break with the a flatline
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