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    Posted: 08 November 2004 at 6:40pm

In response to a thread over in the marker gallery, im just being curious as to what you all think about deer hunting.

Personaly ive never been, but i know peole who do. And when they do get a deer, they dont just do it for sport, they eat what they shot. and to me, that is fine. As for just shooting them to say you shot one bigger then someone else, and not eat it, thats just wrong.

EDIT: also explain your reasoning.



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How does it matter whether you eat the deer or not?

 

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If their doing it leagally, eating the deer, and making some kind of fur coat about it, and using EVERY part (reminds me of indians) then its ok by my terms.

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all for it. buck heaven where i live. BOO-YA
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cause if you just shoot it and then do nothing with it... thats moraly wrong. if you use it for something as to eat, or maybe even for its skin to make something with then its not too bad.

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Vension is awesome, its one of my favorite animals to eat. So I hunt because I enjoy the meat.
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as long as it gets eatin. we ground up some meet and cook deer burgers, and deer-burger-helper.
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Originally posted by woodsballer87 woodsballer87 wrote:

cause if you just shoot it and then do nothing with it... thats moraly wrong.

So you said - but why?

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if you don't eat the thing it will rot. also you can take the head and mount it and be #1 at the deer camp.
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because then its just straight murder.

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Originally posted by woodsballer87 woodsballer87 wrote:

In response to a thread over in the marker gallery, im just being curious as to what you all think about deer hunting.

Personaly ive never been, but i know peole who do. And when they do get a deer, they dont just do it for sport, they eat what they shot. and to me, that is fine. As for just shooting them to say you shot one bigger then someone else, and not eat it, thats just wrong.

EDIT: also explain your reasoning.



I believe that you do not have to eat them.  It is just like any other sport, it can be competative while at the same time a side bar hobby.  I do not see what is wrong about shooting a deer than not eating it.  Thats like saying if you shoot a crow you have to eat it.
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Originally posted by woodsballer87 woodsballer87 wrote:

because then its just straight murder.

Ok...

So if I kill my neighbor's dog (or my neighbor), it's ok so long as I eat my killing?  That doesn't make sense.

How does eating my kill relate to the morality of the kill?

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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by woodsballer87 woodsballer87 wrote:

because then its just straight murder.

Ok...

So if I kill my neighbor's dog (or my neighbor), it's ok so long as I eat my killing?  That doesn't make sense.

How does eating my kill relate to the morality of the kill?

The deer has a natural right to live, just like you. killing someone for absoulutly no reason is moraly wrong to you, right? now as for a deer, killing due to over population can be acceptible only when given permission to do so. also, if you kill but then donate and somehow make use of what you have killed.


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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by woodsballer87 woodsballer87 wrote:

because then its just straight murder.


Ok...


So if I kill my neighbor's dog (or my neighbor), it's ok so long as I eat my killing?  That doesn't make sense.


How does eating my kill relate to the morality of the kill?



If only Jeffrey knew of this....

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As long as you use it, it's fine with me...
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Let me try a different approach.

Nobody hunts deer for food (in the US, anyway).  People hunt deer for fun, and then stop for a burger on the way home.  Whether or not they eat the deer, the reason they went hunting in the first place had nothing to do with food.

If we were talking about starving people who needed to hunt to eat, then your point would have some merit.  But hunters are sportsmen.  For the money they spend on their weapons, licenses, trucks, gear and beer, they could buy enough food to feed their families for weeks.

These are not "injuns" stalking the deer to feed their tribes. 

So - I will clarify my question:  If I am going hunting for fun anyway, what difference does it make whether I eat the deer or not?

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OK, i know most hunt for sport, but your wrong. Most people that do hunt, wether it be for sport or an actualy, will at one point, eat their killing.

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You missed my point.  I am not saying most people don't eat their kill.

By "sportsmen" I mean "hunt for fun."

American hunters hunt for the heck of it, not for food.  They may eat the deer, but they didn't go hunting to feed the family.  Food was just an accidental byproduct of their fun hobby.

So, my point - if I hunt for fun (which all American hunters do), how does eating my kill change the moral value of hunting?

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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Let me try a different approach.

Nobody hunts deer for food (in the US, anyway).  People hunt deer for fun, and then stop for a burger on the way home.  Whether or not they eat the deer, the reason they went hunting in the first place had nothing to do with food.

If we were talking about starving people who needed to hunt to eat, then your point would have some merit.  But hunters are sportsmen.  For the money they spend on their weapons, licenses, trucks, gear and beer, they could buy enough food to feed their families for weeks.

These are not "injuns" stalking the deer to feed their tribes. 

So - I will clarify my question:  If I am going hunting for fun anyway, what difference does it make whether I eat the deer or not?



I have relatives who hunt for food, in Georgia.

And we hunt for food because it saves money on buying hamburger all winter.

And I'm not trying to cause a fight or anything but why do you have to disupte everything everyone says Clark Kent?

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And also what happens when nobody hunts and deer eat all the farmers crops.

And to bring the point up about the neighbors dog.

The dog belonged to someone and had personal value.  Unless you shoot someones pet deer, you not killing anyones personal belonging.

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