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    Posted: 23 January 2005 at 6:22pm
sup guys, for as long as ive been playing ive never found out the answer to this question. so, i was wonderin, what makes rifled barrels different from regular ones as far as performance? thats all, cya

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rifled barrels have grooves and regular barrels dont
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A5 dude15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2005 at 6:28pm
lol, wow.....i said performance buddy...cmon now i aint that stupid, i know what it is and how it works with a real fire arm. but what about rifled paintball barrels? how do they change yur performance as opposed to a regular one.
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rifled barrels are more accurate because it put a spin on the ball so it flies more consistanly through the air...i have the empire twister and its AWESOME!
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rifling in paintball barrels has nop effect im told.....go to a5og kreeper-x had a sticky on barrels and stuff
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Originally posted by mastersniper mastersniper wrote:

rifling in paintball barrels has nop effect im told.....go to a5og kreeper-x had a sticky on barrels and stuff


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Originally posted by fstandfurious23 fstandfurious23 wrote:

rifled barrels are more accurate because it put a spin on the ball so it flies more consistanly through the air...i have the empire twister and its AWESOME!
thats what i was wondering. if it put a spin on the ball, then that would make it curve, like a baseball. wouldnt it?  its more accurate with bullets because they have a pointed tip, for example, a football, it travels best with spin on it.
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i heard that they make the gun more accurate at higher velocities. he said that paintballs shot out of a rifled barrel would not swurve at certain velocities when a paintball out of a regular barrel would. this isnt true is it?
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I believe its not true, cause i do have a twister, but i did see a little increase in accuracy and distance from a J&J.
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rifled barrels are no good for paintballs for 3 or more reasons. these are the only i can think of.

  1. liquid paint inside causes it to loose its spin quickly because the liquid can just adjust to the spin, and eventulay not spin at all. but the flatline actualy spins the ball up with backspin, and gravity cant pull it down as much. so if you were to shoot the flatline in a place with no gravity, it would shoot gradualy up.
  2. low velocity gives you no differane in tradjectory which is why it shoots no further. its still being propelled by 300fps, and it will shoot 300 feet, per second.
  3. inperfections (roundness, seem, size) make the ball never fly in a perfectly straight path.

thats basicaly why they dont seem much differant than normal barrels.

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Few things...

  1. Yes, the paint in the paintballs is liquid, but it's thick and sticks...  It will spin with the shell, but it acts as a drag on the shell, so it will slow it down, but not all that quickly...  This is why you get those wild "corckscrew" shots when you break paint in the barrel or hopper.
  2. The ONLY testing I ever saw publiched stating that rifling works on round projectiles was witten by the Father of one of the Execs of Hammerhead, a company that makes (get this) rifled barrels.
  3. Technically, if you shot a flatline in Zero Gravity it would fly in a straight line forever.  Unless you're in a controled and pressurized environment like the International Space station, where the ball would indeed fly up.  Reason being, without gravity there can be no atmosphere, and thus nothing for the spin of the ball to interact with.

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Okay, they have done so many test and all say that no bennifit is had by rifled barrels, or for that matter putting a spin on the ball, with the exception of the flatline, and the back spin.

But, with that said, I still love the Armson Stealth. Great barrel, accruate (as any barrel can be), quiet, and I never had an issue with breakage. The breakage is dependant on paint selection, of course. I used ProBall, which tended not to break in the barrel, or the player you shot for that matter. lol. "The good ole days."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BladeBuster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 February 2005 at 6:38am

  so is a J&J rifled barrels? or does all rifled barrels have to have a certain design to make it rifled?? 

my thought is, is that its just a scam to try to sell their products more. they make things up or stretch t he truth

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if the inside of the barrel is smooth, it is not rifled. Rifled barrels have groves in them.

So no, the jj ceramic is not rifled, i think, pretty sure never seen the inside of one.

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Rifling works on real firearms because the reaction that takes place, when fired, causes a release of heat, which in turn makes the bullet expand and catch onto the grooves (causing it to spin). Since in a paintball there is no source of heat (i.e.- gunpowder), they don't expand on firing, meaning they don't catch rifling very well. Also, you would need a pretty much absolute exact paint to barrel match to get close to a rifling effect.

I believe rifling does have a minimal effect on paintballs because the force of the bolt slamming into the ball causes it to deform, making it wider, and thus, catch the rifle grooves. Interesting fact, when a baseball player hits a pitch, the same effect happens to it - for a matter of milliseconds, it becomes deformed and wraps around the front of the bat.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A5 dude15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 March 2005 at 6:49pm
ok so rifled barrels have no advantage over normal barrels? mainly because the pintball doesnt catch the rifling inside the barrel?
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Yeah pretty much.
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i called proteam and asked the question, they told me that their rifled barrel is not smooth and perfectly round. because a paintball, when shot is also not prefectly round anymore. i don't know what this means, thats what the "pros" told me. the rifled or smooth where the same price, yet rilfed, i was told, was better. something about more contact with the barrel, so the it spins, maybe. when i ask if the rifled was better, i got a hesatant...yeah...
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