Wesley Clark- Excuse me?

Was listening to radio and on NPR heard a speech by Wesley Clark, A retired US General and one of the Democratic Presidential Candidates for the last election addressing the situation in Kosovo.

I listened as he explained the declining support from UN and other nations troops in Kosovo and the resurgence of the insurection and ethnic violence. He stated that UN Peacekeepers will not get involved in known incidents and will stand by waiting on clearence before action, usually too late to prevent whatever incident they are there to prevent. US troops are under the same "rules" and can not act withour direct command from UN authorities. I knew of all thise, and the usual UN ineptness but his next statement floored me.

Gen Wesley Clark US Army Ret, and prominant Democrat stated that if the UN or other forces in the area will not asct the US should act independantly and persue the mission on our own. The mission as he sees it is to defeat the insurgents, the hostile ethnic factions and bring about a elected government free from corruption and intimidation by the previous "elected government officials" (basically the same thugs who were in charge in 1998). Fellow Democrates are behind the General and his ideas, and sees this as a needed action for world and regional peace.

Now wait a minute, we are doing essentially the same thing in Iraq, yet these same people are are whole heartedly against that "war", but yet see merit in a greater presense and direct military action in Kosovo, 7 years after we were supposed to have stabilized the area and should have withdrawn per President Clinton's initial resolution for involvement.

Now is there a wee bit of hyprocorcy(sp) in this action, since this "noble" effort in Kosovo is a legacy of thier party's president (Clinton) it is justified and needed for regional stability, yet Bush in Iraq is immoral and unjust, and are we not doing the same thing.

And before we go off on the usual WMD or war for oil retoric, read the three reasons stated in Bush's resolution for the war in Iraq, which was endorsed by the majority of congress, prominant democrats included.

http://www.yourcongress.com/ViewArticle.asp?article_id=2686

some other "fun" reading

http://www.clintonpresidentialcenter.org/legacy/062693-speec h-by-president-address-to-nation-on-iraq.htm

http://www.clintonpresidentialcenter.org/legacy/121698-speec h-by-president-address-to-nation-on-iraq-air-strike.htm

http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html

http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

Edited by oldsoldier

Yes, because one man speaks for the entire party.

Dune wrote: Yes, because one man speaks for the entire party.

So, you aren't really a democrat then.  If all of you have different views, then you aren't really a party.

I hate the party system.

Hey, look - more partisan hackery.

oldsoldier wrote: And before we go off on the usual WMD or war for oil retoric, read the three reasons stated in Bush's resolution for the war in Iraq, which was endorsed by the majority of congress, prominant democrats included.

Wesley Clark and Kosovo aside,

Let's see, we went to war for WMD, which there are none. 1400 soldiers have died to relieve Saddam of aforementioned nonexistent weapons. Bukus of experts tried to tell W(armonger) that they didn't exist, which he ignored. The V.P.'s own former company (Halliburton) has landed every contract for oil that nobody else could bid on. They are under investigation for 12 charges of fraud, but continue to be paid in full, which is against the federal code, which states that one-half of payment is withheld until investigations of fraud are concluded. The oil companies posted their highest profits ever in history last year, but Americans pay $2.00 per gallon for gasoline and the price never goes down. The oil companies aren't into profit sharing, I guess.

Facts don't turn into rhetoric just because you label them as such. Rhetoric is rhetoric, like calling anyone who opposed the war in Iraq a liberal or democrat, despite who they voted for or believe.

Hello, hello, hello, is there anybody in there? Just nod of you can hear me. Is there anyone home?

Edited by goodsmitty

Badsmitty wrote: Goodsmitty, you are not staying current with G.W.'s politics of multiple realities.  W.M.D.'s became liberation became democracy for the Iraqi's.  Geez the neocons are keeping things two-word simple for their legions and you can't keep up.  Tort reform.  Tax reform.  Constitutional amendment.  Iraqi elections.  Moral majority.  Tax cuts.  Iraqi freedom.  etc. etc. etc.

Don't forget Media bias, Patriot Act, **edited** marriage, pro-life, and flip-flop.

I think that is why my logic flies right over the heads of the conservatives. It's too wordy. Let me re-word my earlier post:

No weapons

Dirty contracts

Dead Soldiers.

Also you two need to explain to the rest of us unknowing why the interdiction into, initially unilaterally, by our military, into the ex Yugoslavain provinces, by Clinton, supposidly to last one year, to prevent the racial and religious genocide by the regimes considered a "noble endevour". Using your logic, these people are no threat to America, and we need not waste another American life on this misguided legacy building endevour all these years after President Clinton promised the American people our presense would no longer be needed.

Again only certian peoples and societies are worthy of basic human rights protection under Democrat standards, amd only when a Democrat sees it as a "noble endevour", we Conservatives do not understand human rights, for we are all bigots, racists and ignorant according to the current Democrat standards since we elected Bush again.

Lets see a Black Female Secretary of State, a Hispanic Attorney General, and more females and minorities in the cabinet than a past Democrat. And if they can not keep them on the farm, then charactor assasination is the standard Democrat response.

By that standard, the bunker-busters we have been dropping are all WMDs...

Clark Kent wrote: By that standard, the bunker-busters we have been dropping are all WMDs...

Since when does a bunker buster kill 60,000 people?