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    Posted: 20 April 2005 at 3:13pm
Whats a hot fill?

I ask cause when I got my tank filled for the first time it was pretty warm, is that normal? I'm a total noob to comp air.


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Happens all the time to me, similar to Co2 bottles that get cold when you fill them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FyreFly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2005 at 4:09pm
Yup, its completely normal for HPA tanks to get warm when filled. If you
have a fiberglass wrapped tank, you can feel the tank swell when its filled
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ya its not bad for the tank to be hot it feels kewl when you are playing out side in the cold.
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All Fiber wrapped tanks have warnings to not hot fill the tank. If you fill your tank too quickly it produces enough heat to damage the tank fiberwrap over time, that is a hot fill. You should always be able to hold the tank neck without it feeling very warm. If you do get a hot fill you will notice that if left alone the tank pressure will drop as it cools anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 of what it was. www.cylindersafety.com has the details.

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Well I have a steel so I don't think that should be a problem for me.

Thanks for the info guys.


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Taken from cylindersafety.com:

Rapidly filling a paintball cylinder results in heating of the gas (air/
nitrogen) and the cylinder. If filled too fast, this heat can become
excessive resulting in damage to the cylinder. Such damage can lead to
failure of the cylinder, potential property damage and personal injury or
death. Care must be taken to fill the cylinder at a rate so the cylinder
temperature does not become too hot to hold in your bare hand (140°F or
above).


Prior to each filling, the cylinder should be examined for signs of damage,
including heat/flame exposure. Also check to insure the cylinder is within
its hydrostatic test service life (3 years for fiberglass cylinders, 5 years for
DOT carbon cylinders, and 3 years for TC carbon cylinders). If the cylinder
is beyond its test service life or any damage is observed, do not fill the
cylinder. Take the suspect cylinder to a DOT or TC authorized hydrostatic
tester for inspection and pressure testing. Locate the retester facility
nearest you.

Never fill a cylinder beyond its rated service pressure.

Any questions concerning the safe filling or use of these composite
cylinders should be directed to Carleton Technologies Inc, Pressure
Technology Division. Phone 410-760-9856.

Definitions:

DOT: US Department of Transportation, regulatory agency for US users.

TC: Transport Canada, regulatory agency for Canadian users.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Watari Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2005 at 8:31pm
Well it wasn't even close to that hot, it was just getting a little warm, I had my hand around the tank the whole time it was being filled.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bugg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 April 2005 at 8:00am
Yes, heating up is normal becasue of all the friciton caused by allt he air inside.

Best thing to do is fill, thenlet it cool down then fill again because some pressure will be lost after the initial cooling
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You're good. I just wanted to make you aware of that if you had a fiber tank. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 April 2005 at 2:10pm
hehe, you should feel bulk cylinder when they are filled. We melted the carpet with one last summer.

And by the way......

Yes, bulk cylinder WILL TAKE OFF LIKE ROCKETS IF THEY ARE SUDDENLY VENTED.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote You Wont See Me Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 April 2005 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

. We melted the carpet with one last summer.


Yeah that could be a problem. Just the opposite happens to our c02 bulk tank.
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Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Yes, bulk cylinder WILL TAKE OFF LIKE ROCKETS IF THEY ARE SUDDENLY VENTED.


Hee hee... yeah they will. Learned that the hard way at the field I worked at.
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