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    Posted: 09 June 2005 at 2:41pm
what exactly will nitrogen do for me that co2 wont, and why should i get an expansion chamber?
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No one uses nitro anymore. Its too expensive, what you want to use is compressed air.

HPA (high pressure air) is cleaner than co2, cheaper and you know exactly what you have in your tank (guage) co2 tanks dont have guages.


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Its alot better for your gun alot more cleaner.  At high rates of fire your gun wont freeze , it is also more consistant.
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The air we breath is 78% nitrogen gas anyway, so no one wants to use pure nitrogen gas. Too spendy. HPA (compressed air) is better and requires the same tank. HPA is more consistent than co2, it can sustain higher ROF, and is just plainn easier on your marker's internals.

An expansion chamber will give more time for co2 liguid to expand into gas. If you are planning on using co2 i would recomend geting and anti-siphon installed on your tank byu your local proshop then get the x-core 8 stage expansion chamber or a palmer stabilizer(it is a regulator).

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way cheaper..mor sonsistent..and with co2 it is mixed with water so it can freeze and hurt electro guns{not the 98} hpa its all just air and no water

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Don't make that misconception it is not water H2O it is not hydrogen and oxygen it is carbon and oxygen it is carbon dioxide. CO2 in paintball is part liquid and part gas.
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Getting HPA will increase your consitancy, therefore increasing accuracy.
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Originally posted by pbdude985 pbdude985 wrote:

Its alot better for your gun alot more cleaner.  At high rates of fire your gun wont freeze , it is also more consistant.
 

 

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If you get HPA, Expansion chambers won't do anything for you. They may actually hinder performance.
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so would i have to change vaules and internarls at all if i got HPA and where would i get it filled? and i have been thinkin about it i would like to look at tanks
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is this a HPA tank? http://www.800paintball.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/146 0408/vpcsid/0/SFV/30363

i think its nitro but not sure



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HPA/nitro tanks are the same tanks.
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You don't have to switch out any internals to go to HPA. Just make sure you buy a high output tank (800-850 psi). Careful, some tanks only put out 750 psi and will cause velocity issues.

CO2 does not contain water- cold air causes the water vapor in the air to condense. Just like a cold glass of water on a table- water doesn't sepp thorugh the glass or climb over it- the water vapor paarticles have a high state of energy, and move around very quickly. When they get cold, they start slowing down. Kinda like an airplane that suddenly runs out of fuel.

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would the 68ci 4500 psi crossfire nitro be good for my 98ct?
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can you use a remote with HPA
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A remote will work fine with HPA. And don't let anyone tell you that nonsense that you can't run a remote that is only rated at 3000 psi on a 4500psi tank. The output of the tank is still only 800-850psi, the 3000, 4500, or 5000 psi is the pressure that the air INSIDE the tank is filled to. There are three number to look at when buying and HPA tank. Usually only two are listed on the tank itself. Like 68/4500. This is 68 cubic inch (ci), size, that can be pressurised to 4500 pounds per square inch (PSI). The third number might just be listed in the manual or on the box as high or low pressure. Most come in either 800ish, or 400ish psi outputs. Get a high pressure or 800ish output tank. The low pressure ones are for a few low pressure guns. Even if you get the low pressure kit from Tippmann, use a seconday regulator and an high pressure tank. And you don't need the low pressure, or HPA kit from Tippmann to use a HPA tank. It will just screw right in, and you are good to go.

You can get them filled at most decent fields and stores.

The shot to shot pressure and therefore velocity is more consistant, the same each time. This helps with accuracy because each ball is being shot out the same way each time. Consistency is the basis for all accuracy.
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Originally posted by **trai** **trai** wrote:

would the 68ci 4500 psi crossfire nitro be good for my 98ct?


Great tank!  Just make sure you get the high pressure output, and that your local field or proshop can fill it to 4500psi.  Only one of my proshops can fill it to 4500, the other has to go to 3000.
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