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Poll Question: Did Saddam have WMD’s?
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    Posted: 21 June 2005 at 6:02pm
Due to some pm's recieved by a forumer who shall remain unnamed *cough*linus*cough* i have decided to take a poll

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Maybe.

I was all for the war in the beginning, but now I see it as the right place, at the wrong time.
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Hades i am just curious as to what people think about my question: did he have them
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Originally posted by Homer J Homer J wrote:

Maybe.

I was all for the war in the beginning, but now I see it as the right place, at the wrong time.


Pretty much the same here.  I personally think clinton should have done this.  I still suppport the war though, we got a dictator out of there, though we went to war with a different goal.
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no... we just wanted oil

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The main problem is that we had politicians running the war. If we would have had someone like Schwartzkopf as Secretary of Defense, instead of that politician Rumsfeld, we probably would have been out of there already.

Scwartzkopf would never take the position, though.

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Of course he did. He had the ones that the US sold to him to fight the Iranians. You guys don't remeber this.

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He had them, but by the time we got there, he shipped them to Iran and Syria. Sneaky bastard.
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Well if he didn't have them, he sure was trying to get them and would possess them in the near future. And if he got them he'd just distribute them to terrorists who you know would use them first chance they got. And also, who's forgetting when Saddam murdered thousands of his own people by the use of chemical weapons? There's so much more but I don't want to get into it.

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Does it really matter? If he did, he can't use them now. If he didn't we still suck.

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The ultimate waste of time. Somehow mysterious manages to make a lot of threads/posts like this...
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Yes, he had used them before on the Kurds, please. And we wont be out of Iraq for a while. I mean, look, we still arent out of korea!
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He didn't use 'em on us, there doesn't seem to any evidence of the ones Bush claimed, so why worry?
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Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Does it really matter? If he did, he can't use them now. If he didn't we still suck.
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Originally posted by Pariel Pariel wrote:

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He didn't use 'em on us, there doesn't seem to any evidence of the ones Bush claimed, so why worry?


Why should we wait for an attack? We instituted a government, a Democratic one, this has started a chain reaction. Remember the "Red Scare"? When the US thoght that if comunism took root in aisia that it would spread? Well its just like that, but with democracy.
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Dude...he lied to get us to go to war. You're saying that's OK? I agree-we did good stuff. This isn't a case of ends defines the means though. We were wrong about Communism, why do you think we're right now?
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He didnt lie to get us to go to war. He is going off past precidents and information that he is givin by the CIA and NSA and other countries. People on the ground looking at this stuff.

And i think we are right because other countries are taking notice. The Saudie royal family is basicaly, very nervous.
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That's total crap. He is responsible for the actions of the people in his government. He chooses whether to act on the information. Obviously, his information was wrong. He was also obviously already planning to invade Iraq. I couldn't care less how nervous the Saudis are-what the heck do they do to me? Nothing, as far as I know. We've been in cahoots with them for years.

I do believe we did a good thing, but, again, the ends do not justify the means used here. Lieing to the American people is something that should not, and cannot, be tolerated.
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Ok for the guys who think "well they didn't do anything to us before". That's not the point. Iraq, the Saudis, and everyone else who hates America probably won't directly attack us, your right. But what they will do is support the terrorists who WILL directly attack us. Every country knows that if they mess with America they're getting taken out. So they get terrorists to do the dirty work for them. So by fighting in the middle east and taking out countries that would help terrorists we're going straight to the problem. And for the people who think we've been there too long, if we leave with Iraq a total mess then everything will start over again and terrorism will strongly take hold in that country. And about Bush "lieing" or whatever your arguement is, I'm sure there's alot that the general public doesn't know about that could help you guys understand why we're fighting. Most people get their thoughts from the news which tell half-truths and only the bad stuff. Talk to soldiers who have faught there and ask them why they were fighting. Ask them if the war is justified or if they think it's right that we're over there. Most would agree with the war.
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