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    Posted: 02 August 2005 at 12:00pm
Well, there was no post about this, so I want to know what you guys think about it.

President Bush has named John Bolton as the next U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. The president's announcement came this morning in the form of a so-called "recess announcement" which allowed Mr. Bush to bypass the Senate to install Bolton in the diplomatic post.


Now, I think it's a clever way to use a loop hole, no matter how cheap it may seem.

Dem's in congress would just have philibustered and wated a ton of time keeping him out of the UN when most of congress would have voted him in if they voted would have started.

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Another big mistake.

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Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Another big mistake.

Yes sir.

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Yeah, what an idotic move to appoint an ambassador that has verbally spoken about his disgust for the UN. Stupid.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Yeah, what an idotic move to appoint an ambassador that has verbally spoken about his disgust for the UN. Stupid.

Its like the NAACP making a Klansmen in chagre of relations.

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Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Yeah, what an idotic move to appoint an ambassador that has verbally spoken about his disgust for the UN. Stupid.

Its like the NAACP making a Klansmen in chagre of relations.

Unfortunately you're right. If Bush would have looked to see what Voinavich was trying to prove by going against the grain maybe he could have seen Bolton as not the correct pick. But he won't look past his nose.
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Yup, mention something about the president and you get every wack-job in the forum posting thier opinion...



See, here's a good example, here I am posting MY opinion. So what does that make me?



So I guess I better post it then.

I think the PRESIDENT'S decision was exremely good. We need not bow to the extreme left UN organization. Screw them, we don't really need um' anyhow.

And the demon-crats are agianst what's happening because it simply loosens thier grip on our lives, and thier desire to controll every decision we make.

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The democrats lost the prez election, why should they have a say? If this guy is so outspoken about the UN, Good! It's about time we got  someone in there with a backbone. We are still the strongest country in the world as far as military so the UN should be on there knees kissing our butts. I say screw, NATO and the UN you harbor terrorists you get a military response.

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The UN is the only organization keep the US in check these days. It's good to have them, and we should have an ambassador that respects them, not Bolton. Very intelligent responses though, I mean, of course the UN harbors terrorists. Idiots.
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Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

The democrats lost the prez election, why should they have a say?

Everything.

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meh

not too fond of the UN, diplomacy is a very novel concept, and works well when all are willing to sit down for the tea party. but it's not the last option, and some of the scandals...do we really want to be in the middle of them?

...the Oil for Food scandal...all i can say is follow the money...

sad that following the money will hold true for nearly every major decision these days.


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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Very intelligent responses though, I mean, of course the UN harbors terrorists. Idiots.

I think he meant that if a country harbors terrorists they get a military response, not that the UN harbors terrorists.
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Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:


Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Very intelligent responses though, I mean, of course the UN harbors terrorists. Idiots.

I think he meant that if a country harbors terrorists they get a military response, not that the UN harbors terrorists.


I'm pretty sure he ment that as well...


I'm not an idiot, I'm just an extremist conservative.
A theocracy doesn't sound all that bad to me, strangely.
And I don't think America NEEDS to be kept in check.

Just My Humble Opinion though...
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Originally posted by reclusivetorrid reclusivetorrid wrote:

A theocracy doesn't sound all that bad to me, strangely.

I presume you mean by this that a theocracy doesn't sound so bad, SO LONG AS IT HAPPENS TO BE BASED IN YOUR RELIGION.

Somehow I don't think you would be a fan of a theocracy led by, say, Osama bin Laden or the Ayatollah Khomeini.  They both like(d) theocracies as well.

Which is of course the central problem with theocracies...

But on point - before we cheer or jeer the Prez on his choice for UN ambassador, perhaps we should consider what we are trying to accomplish?  What function do we want this ambassador to serve?  How does he fit into our vision for US/UN relations?  For that matter, what IS our vision for US/UN relations?  Hard to judge merit without a measuring stick.
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  1. I think of the UN being a defunct, useless organization that was flawed from the beginning. It has a history of anti-US action that is completely counterproductive.

  2. I'm in favor of completely dismantling the UN. However, since that's too extreme to get past the whole group that would need to agree, this is the next best thing.

  3. Is it really so wrong for the President to use powers given to him by the Constitution? Oops, I forgot, you leftists are opposed to the Constitution.

  4. I'm with Justice on this one. The democrats lost in 2000 and they lost again in 2004. Quit whining. You have no say, because YOU LOST.


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Reclusive, get back in your hole! By the way, your right. The UN is so anti USA that it's shameful. Then the socalist bastards want the USA to pay for the costs of running it. Go figure?
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Really, who let reclusive out of his hole? Isnt Rockslide supposed to be in charge of him??? 

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Is it a bad thing that the UN refuses to allow the US to walk all over all other countries? Is it bad that a nation on a power trip needs to be kept in check? No. The UN serves a purpose, unfortunately too many of you have parents that have no idea what the UN actually does and just spews the lack of knowledge down the family ladder. They are weak yes, because we as a country are too arrogant to follow their advice and go about things in a peaceful manner. This ambassador is an dolt, and the president did not pay much attention to even what some republican senators were telling him not to do.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Is it a bad thing that the UN refuses to allow the US to walk all over all other countries? Is it bad that a nation on a power trip needs to be kept in check? No. The UN serves a purpose, unfortunately too many of you have parents that have no idea what the UN actually does and just spews the lack of knowledge down the family ladder. They are weak yes, because we as a country are too arrogant to follow their advice and go about things in a peaceful manner. This ambassador is an dolt, and the president did not pay much attention to even what some republican senators were telling him not to do.



I would be willing to bet that I am older then your parents. You, my son are a self hating american that knows not of what you speek. Hello, 3/4th of the world is living out of the dark ages because of USA aid. That's right pal, off the american tax payers back. We built them just so they can turn around and dictate to us on what our way of life should be. I don't think so.
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Tell me why he is a dolt. The only thing i know about this guy. Is he LOOKS stupid, he needs to get rid of his mustache. Thats all i know, and the fact that he is an arms dealer. But other than that, why is he a dolt?
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