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    Posted: 11 August 2005 at 6:36pm

The Supreme Court may not be able to dodge this one:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/08/11/school.pledge.ap/ind ex.html?section=cnn_latest
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Whatever happened to simply not listening? Or just sitting out respectfully?

If you don't want to pledge... don't!
If you don't like to hear the word "God"... plug yer ears!

You'd think the school system was shoving religion down their throats. Cripes.

Welcome to America in the 21st Century... where if you don't like something... sue somebody!

To hell with the old way of just letting people live out their own lives. Why would we want that?! [/sarcasm]
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Originally posted by ShortyBP ShortyBP wrote:

Whatever happened to simply not listening? Or just sitting out respectfully?

If you don't want to pledge... don't!
If you don't like to hear the word "God"... plug yer ears!

You'd think the school system was shoving religion down their throats. Cripes.

Welcome to America in the 21st Century... where if you don't like something... sue somebody!

To hell with the old way of just letting people live out their own lives. Why would we want that?! [/sarcasm]


I agree, I can understand what their saying.  But you don't see me going to China and whining about their beliefs, because it probably wouldn't be the healthiest choice to make.
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Excatly. If we went to other countries and cried about the injustices and having to listen to pleadges to their gods and what not they would tear us apart.
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I'm all for equality, but honestly, if those two words make it to where you just can't stand the pledge, just hold your ears.  I don't like the Canadian anthem being played in American Hockey games (for opposing teams), and so what If I don't like it, I can be respectful.  Something that this "sue-happy" generation has yet to figure out.
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This country was founded "Under-God". I bet his kids don't even give a hoot, he's the only one complaining. If he dosen't like it, he can shove is fingers in his ears and when it's done shut up and go on with life.

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Get it out of the classroom. Take that time so the teachers can do somthing actually important, like teach.

I dunno, I dont say the pledge anymore anyway. I find it kinda pointless and idiotic to repeat this jingoisim every day to prove I am American.

I fail to see the purpose.

 

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Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Get it out of the classroom. Take that time so the teachers can do somthing actually important, like teach.

I dunno, I dont say the pledge anymore anyway. I find it kinda pointless and idiotic to repeat this jingoisim every day to prove I am American.

I fail to see the purpose.

 



Amen. Maybe people should be worried about what is actually important in school. Learning, because I know half the teachers in my school can not teach to save their lives. I can't say I completely agree with everything you said, but the basic idea. People need to focus on the more important things in school.


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Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Get it out of the classroom. Take that time so the teachers can do somthing actually important, like teach.

I dunno, I dont say the pledge anymore anyway. I find it kinda pointless and idiotic to repeat this jingoisim every day to prove I am American.

I fail to see the purpose.

 



Yeah, cause all of 30 seconds is a big, unproductive waste of time.

You know what, sure, lets get rid of the pledge.  Why dont we burn the decloration of independence too?  It was "endowed by their creater . . ." golly gee, thats a refference to a god.  But lets not stop there, oh no! Lets go tear down the national cathedral, lets go rip up every public refference to a religion.

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well im guessing the pledge is just a reminder for people......i dont know......i go to a christian school and we dont even say the pledge everyday......maybe like 3 times throughout the year........but still the country was founded on God, and all that



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I live in virginia, so am I going to hear under god anymore? Nobody says it anyways.
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Get it out of the classroom. Take that time so the teachers can do somthing actually important, like teach.

I dunno, I dont say the pledge anymore anyway. I find it kinda pointless and idiotic to repeat this jingoisim every day to prove I am American.

I fail to see the purpose.

 



Yeah, cause all of 30 seconds is a big, unproductive waste of time.

You know what, sure, lets get rid of the pledge.  Why dont we burn the decloration of independence too?  It was "endowed by their creater . . ." golly gee, thats a refference to a god.  But lets not stop there, oh no! Lets go tear down the national cathedral, lets go rip up every public refference to a religion.

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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Get it out of the classroom. Take that time so the teachers can do somthing actually important, like teach.

I dunno, I dont say the pledge anymore anyway. I find it kinda pointless and idiotic to repeat this jingoisim every day to prove I am American.

I fail to see the purpose.

 



Yeah, cause all of 30 seconds is a big, unproductive waste of time.

You know what, sure, lets get rid of the pledge.  Why dont we burn the decloration of independence too?  It was "endowed by their creater . . ." golly gee, thats a refference to a god.  But lets not stop there, oh no! Lets go tear down the national cathedral, lets go rip up every public refference to a religion.

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Right. Becuase a meaningless 30 second jingle is the same as all the things you mentioned.

Except not at all.

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The words "under god" were not always in teh pledge of allegience. They were added in later. I think it is completely unneccessary to have them as a part, as it does contradict the right to free religion. Although I just sit out quietly, or do not recite that phrase during the pledge, and try to to draw attention to myself.

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yea if it is such a big deal the kids can put their fingers in their ears for 30 seconds.  I also agree poeple should be more worried about teaching and kids learning then a 30 second pledge.
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Darur there is no good reason to get worked up just becuase one person doesn't say the pledge of alligiance. The U.S isn't going to dash the constitution becuase of a reference to god but we are going to have to deal with crybabies that want the whole pledge struck from schools becuase of the phrase. However keep in mind that you don't have to say the pledge to mean it.

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No but you see, first it's the Pledge that goes, then bigger and bigger things. Why should we let such a small majority of (babies) run our country?

 

And whoever says the Pledge is a waste, yeah, pledging to the flag, which millions have died for, most likely including members of your family, is such a waste If you can't respect the country you live in, and take 20 seconds to do it you can just pack up and leave.

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Flatter God with the pledge or he'll torture you in hell.
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Originally posted by fractus.scud fractus.scud wrote:

No but you see, first it's the Pledge that goes, then bigger and bigger things. Why should we let such a small majority of (babies) run our country?

 

And whoever says the Pledge is a waste, yeah, pledging to the flag, which millions have died for, most likely including members of your family, is such a waste If you can't respect the country you live in, and take 20 seconds to do it you can just pack up and leave.

Nope. I dont say the pledge, and I dont respect the flag. It is cloth. Burn it for all I care.

Oh yeah, and I can stay in this country too. I dont have to "Pack up and leave." God bless America.

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Originally posted by agentwhale007. agentwhale007. wrote:

Originally posted by fractus.scud fractus.scud wrote:

No but you see, first it's the Pledge that goes, then bigger and bigger things. Why should we let such a small majority of (babies) run our country?

 

And whoever says the Pledge is a waste, yeah, pledging to the flag, which millions have died for, most likely including members of your family, is such a waste If you can't respect the country you live in, and take 20 seconds to do it you can just pack up and leave.

Nope. I dont say the pledge, and I dont respect the flag. It is cloth. Burn it for all I care.

Oh yeah, and I can stay in this country too. I dont have to "Pack up and leave." God bless America.

How old are you?

 

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