Wrath or Ion

If you consider the Promaster in the price range ($380), thed I'd get that. If not then I'd go for the Ion. And keep in mind to, when pricing it out that you're going to want to get a HPA tank and a nice hoper.

never shot a wrath but ions are realy nice for the price with just a few ups. (barrel, feedkneck, asa)  i'd go for the ion because more people have them so its a bigger market for used stuff and if you ever have any trouble theres more people to ask. 

Wraths are pretty cool. I'd recommend getting hpa to go with it but you can also shoot it with an antisiphon CO2 tank. Ions are good too, but everyone has them. I like the Wrath.

ANARCHY_SCOUT wrote: wrath the ion is the most over-rated gun ever created it needs an hpa, and new barrel plus ive heared the board frys out.

What's over-rated about the ion? Or what's better about the Wrath? The Ion and Wrath will both work with co2 and hpa (hpa is highly recommended for both though). It doesn't NEED a new barrel, and the board on the ion is way better than the one on the wrath.

sugarfree wrote: ANARCHY_SCOUT wrote: wrath the ion is the most over-rated gun ever created it needs an hpa, and new barrel plus ive heared the board frys out. What's over-rated about the ion? Or what's better about the Wrath? The Ion and Wrath will both work with co2 and hpa (hpa is highly recommended for both though). It doesn't NEED a new barrel, and the board on the ion is way better than the one on the wrath.

What are you talking about the ion cant use co2 it says on a sheet in the box that you get it in DO NOT USE CO2

I wouldn't use co2 in the Ion unless you want your macro lines to seize up. And don't try to say that they won't becuase when you are shooting liquid co2 through them at 20+ bps it's bound to happen. As for the Wrath there are no interna macro lines and you cannot beat the dual eyes. For those that read my thread about a new gun for a front to mid player I've been doing a lot of research and for the price the wrath is the better gun.

wow, that is so true

thank you for enlightening us, oh great one

 

but yes i do agree with you hybrid, people just hate ions because they hate smart parts, which is just stupid

Neither, your better off getting a used impulse vision for like 280. They are more accurate and have a better feel than ions are raiths. They are prob more reliable also. Go to www.paintballclassifieds.com , and u can prob find a nice impy there for cheap.

Razgriz Ghost wrote: Okay I don't hate ions becuase I hate smart parts I hate ions becuase I hate ions. The progressive barrel and the smart parts impulse rock. The wrath has DUAL beam break eyes not just one and the macro lines I am referring to are actually just air hoses but the design of it is idiotic. If you'd like proof go here http://www.smartparts.com/Manuals/Ion_Manual.pdf  Before you go and try to slam someone do a little research and don't assume anything about what I care and don't care for.

I'm pretty sure that is just a marketing ploy to make "uninformed ones" go bananas. OMG DUEL BRAKE BEEM EYES!

If that is true, and the gun has four eyes, that's just stupid. Pointless electronics make it more likely something will break.

I see what you're saying on the Ion though. Kinda odd design.