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    Posted: 26 January 2006 at 2:59pm
How much do you really care about Israel? I mean, do you really think that we should support them as much as we do? We caught one of their spies in the Pentagon(He got 12 years today) and they haven't exactly cooperated as well as they could have in the whole peace process thing overthere....do we really need to put so much at stake to support them like they are our little brother? I mean, this Jews have had a really hard time in their history and I have the highest respect for them as a whole but do that really have THAT much right to be there? I mean, they basically invaded it after they left Egypt back in the day(Moses and Joshua we basically warlords), killing everyone there and repopulating the place so they could have total control so I mean, if you go back far enough the Arabs were really there first. That and they were gone from the area since like the time of the Roman Empire so saying they have a right to the area is like saying the Indians have a right to take back Ohio....Not to mention the fact that them being there is probably THE number one destabilizing factor in the area after Iraq.....I don't know, I think the whole thing just stems from religion so using logic is prolly a lost cause but I just don't understand why Israel gets so much support....


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  Did you know they thought about putting Isael in Europe or South America back in the late fourties when they were talking about reesablishing it......I think that would have been a good idea.... 

Edited by .Ryan - 26 January 2006 at 3:33pm

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote whack-a-mole Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:15pm
Like you stated, I think it's just a religious thing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Panda Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:15pm
Once we stop supporting Israel so much, It wouldn't suprise me if some Radical Terrorist groups would step down...

Wasn't Israel the "black eye" of the Middle east when they were first establishing, didn't they have some Radical Jewish Terrorist organization that killed Palastinians?(sp)
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Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

Once we stop supporting Israel so much, It wouldn't suprise me if some Radical Terrorist groups would step down...


It would me, since the terrorists are only after our freedom and are just jelous.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote .Ryan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:24pm
Yeah, they hate our football, voting, and women's rights. They don't have any actual beefs with us as far as things we're doing over there.....

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tae Kwon Do Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:26pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Paint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:28pm
Where are you getting this information on Moses and Joshua?



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote .Ryan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:32pm
Oh crap...I swear thats what I wrote....doh.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote .Ryan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:38pm
Originally posted by Jim Paint Jim Paint wrote:

Where are you getting this information on Moses and Joshua?



I watched a history channel thing on it a while back but it's in the old testament. My jewish history isn't great but from what I understand Moses became somewhat of a military leader during their time in the desert and Joshua was one of his right hand men who took over after he did. He went on to lead the battle of Jericho. The history channel thing went through the various battles that the jews went through at the begining and looked at them from a purely military point of view.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mbro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

Once we stop supporting Israel so much, It wouldn't
suprise me if some Radical Terrorist groups would step down...


It would me, since the terrorists are only after our freedom and are just jelous.
That's exactly what was stated in the 9/11 commission report.

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Should we support Israel? YES!

They are about our only "true allie" over there. Do I trust the Saudi's? Hell no! IMO

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hoytshooter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:51pm
America is the big nosey, drama starting fool of the world, they must be in everybodys affairs, I think we should start thinking about OUR land, and the problems there in.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote .Ryan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2006 at 4:35pm
Hoyt, I was under the impression you were a Bush supporter. Being so and saying what you just said are mutually exclusive so I guess I was wrong....Of course, so is the battle flag of the Confererate States of America and a statement against oppressive government so who knows....


Justice, if we could stop being lazy and/or greedy and get off of the oil we wouldn't need any allies over there.....And besides, did ya miss the part about them spying on us? I know nations do that to each other all the time but still....doesn't reek of "true ally" to me....
 

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