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    Posted: 13 February 2006 at 4:08pm
not sure if this has made it out of the area or not. but ive gotten a kick out of it for about the past week...

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=99291&r an=84449&tref=po

Police math test bias agaisnt blacks and hispanics?

basicly in recient years 59% of blacks passed, 66% of hispanics and 85% whites have pased this test...

because of these stats someones flipping out...

anyways on one radio station they called up a host that was in the hospital on morphine and started asking them questions on the test and he was getting them right. and i even heard they gave the test to a 4th grader and they passed.

more crap in the news...
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Why does everybody make a big deal over a test, its a test, no matter the color of your skin your going to get the grade based on intelligence.
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Originally posted by Hoytshooter Hoytshooter wrote:

Why does everybody make a big deal over a test, its a test, no matter the color of your skin your going to get the grade based on intelligence.

It is of course possible that you are right.

But what is absolutely certain is that you are making that claim based on nothing at all.  You don't know anything about this test or its application, you don't know anything about standardized test structure, and you don't know anything about demographic statistics.  Yet you make such an absolute claim.

Wouldn't it be better to keep an open mind until you learned something about the subject at hand?



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Originally posted by Hoytshooter Hoytshooter wrote:

Why does everybody make a big deal over a test, its a test, no matter the color of your skin your going to get the grade based on intelligence.

yea i agree
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No it wouldnt be good to open an open mind, thats where neutral people stand, Im not neutral, I say its <poopy>

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Edited by Rambino - 13 February 2006 at 4:27pm
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They are human. They are biased.


Edit: ^Burn^....Can you get rid of the idiotic sig too?

Edited by .Ryan - 13 February 2006 at 4:46pm

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Ouch Hoyt... not worth getting yourself guested over, but I don't exactly see how a math test can be discriminatory.
You could argue that it's discriminating against people with less education (minorites that live in the inner city), but the article (if it's reliable (or not made-up in general)) said that they were looking for basic math skills. Like 11:00 pm to 1:30 am = 2.5 hours.
I wouldn't think being a police officer would require anything beyond algebra.


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Originally posted by Jack Carver Jack Carver wrote:

 ... I don't exactly see how a math test can be discriminatory.

There are some theoretical bases for discriminatory bias, such as questions that have an inherent cultural bias, or perhaps particular subject matters that for whatever reason are not covered in black high schools.

But test analysis can go beyond those reasons.  Statistical analysis of individual test items can reveal whether particular questions, as a matter or statistical fact (regardless of theoretical underpinnings) are incorrectly discriminatory to any particular group.

For instance (super-simplified), if there are 100 questions on a test, and there is one question that trips up blacks more than whites, even though they score the same on the overall test, then there must be a problem with that particular question.

 
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