Firing Problem

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   I have a bit of an issue.  When I am just messing with my trigger (without gas), half of the time the sear will go flat (the position it releases the rear bolt in) and not go back up.  I think it could be because of my solenoid on my e-grip.  Does anyone have a clue how to fix this?  Maybe put a drop of oil in the solenoid?

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eldiablo_si Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 19 December 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 120	Post Options Post Reply Quote eldiablo_si Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Firing Problem Posted: 10 March 2006 at 4:24pm
	I have a bit of an issue. When I am just messing with my trigger (without gas), half of the time the sear will go flat (the position it releases the rear bolt in) and not go back up. I think it could be because of my solenoid on my e-grip. Does anyone have a clue how to fix this? Maybe put a drop of oil in the solenoid?
	A-5 w/ APE E-Grip, Polished Internals, 12" Lapco Bigshot, GTA X Chamber, Dead On RVA, Trinity Spring Kit, Smart Parts Inline On/Off, Smart Parts Anti-Siphons

hungrymonkey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 101	Post Options Post Reply Quote hungrymonkey Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 March 2006 at 10:50pm
	No oil. First, change batteries. If that does not work. Take the E grip Off of the gun and hold slight pressure on the armature pin (the long pin that contacts the sear). Then hold slight pressure on the armature pin with your finger then pull the trigger. The pin should nearly pop out of the grip (It will if your finger isnt in the way). Also, take the solenoid out of the grip and pull the bottom part of it out and clean the insides of the solenoid and the sides of the solenoid armature. Also make sure it seats correctly within the solenoid. If the grip functions correctly with the pressure from your finger, then the sear spring probably does not have enough tension to return the armature back to the resting position. (which is what happened to mine). I did a temp fix of this by swapping out the sear spring with the trigger return spring (the red one). The trigger spring has a little bit more tension. I plan on sending it back to tippmann. I called thier tech support and they told me to send it in.
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hungrymonkey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 101	Post Options Post Reply Quote hungrymonkey Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 March 2006 at 10:52pm
	I just noticed that you have the APE board in your egrip. Did you install it yourself?
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eldiablo_si Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 19 December 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 120	Post Options Post Reply Quote eldiablo_si Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 March 2006 at 11:19am
	Sorry for the late response. I've been a bit busy. I know for a fact that it will shoot the armature pin clear out of the grip, and I have changed the batteries, so it must be the spring. I will try all those things again though. Yes, I installed the APE board myself.
	A-5 w/ APE E-Grip, Polished Internals, 12" Lapco Bigshot, GTA X Chamber, Dead On RVA, Trinity Spring Kit, Smart Parts Inline On/Off, Smart Parts Anti-Siphons

hungrymonkey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 101	Post Options Post Reply Quote hungrymonkey Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 March 2006 at 1:25pm
	Have you used the grip since you swapped the board out? I hope the spring swap and solenoid cleaning does the trick.
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eldiablo_si Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 19 December 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 120	Post Options Post Reply Quote eldiablo_si Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 March 2006 at 3:06pm
	I have tinkered with it, but I have not played with it. I did everything you said. It was the spring issue. Thanks for the help.
	A-5 w/ APE E-Grip, Polished Internals, 12" Lapco Bigshot, GTA X Chamber, Dead On RVA, Trinity Spring Kit, Smart Parts Inline On/Off, Smart Parts Anti-Siphons

hungrymonkey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 101	Post Options Post Reply Quote hungrymonkey Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 March 2006 at 3:09pm
	Sweet, I am glad it worked. fwiw, I called tippmann about mine, and was told to mail it to them. I havent done this yet because I did not want to be without my gun for a few weeks. I should break down and do it eventually.
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