automag---ION

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   ok I'm thinking about purchasing a new gun, and i've come down to these two choices.

r/t pro automag-base model

ION with ndz roller trigger, Q lock feedneck, and cp on off with rail.

tippmann 98c pro e-ape board-12 lapco snapshot barrell-palmers stabilizer

         I play about 70-80 percent woods...20-30 percent speed.

Edited by --Red-- - 21 March 2006 at 9:48pm

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--Red-- Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 13 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 377	Post Options Post Reply Quote --Red-- Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: automag---ION Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:19pm
	ok I'm thinking about purchasing a new gun, and i've come down to these two choices. r/t pro automag-base model ION with ndz roller trigger, Q lock feedneck, and cp on off with rail. tippmann 98c pro e-ape board-12 lapco snapshot barrell-palmers stabilizer I play about 70-80 percent woods...20-30 percent speed. Edited by --Red-- - 21 March 2006 at 9:48pm

DanSD Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member filter dodge strike, 12/5 Joined: 01 December 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 331	Post Options Post Reply Quote DanSD Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2006 at 10:10pm
	Get the Ion.
	Don't hate the player... Hate the game.

Die-Trying Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 07 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 550	Post Options Post Reply Quote Die-Trying Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2006 at 10:29pm
	ion you will be very happy with it
	Ion sanded and bondo'd body Orange painted body and frame Dead On Bullet Drop Evo II 68/4500 crossfire Evil pipe kit with ultra tip

xTippyx Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Strike 1 - Poop Pic 1/10/06 Joined: 25 December 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 592	Post Options Post Reply Quote xTippyx Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2006 at 10:48pm
	pro-e since you play more woods.

>><< Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member <<>> Joined: 08 February 2004 Location: Byelorussian SSR Status: Offline Points: 1870	Post Options Post Reply Quote >><< Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 12:00am
	R/T pro hands down forget the ion all together, if you play more woods the automag is the way to go no doubt about it, all you have to do is make sure you have a big tank for the automag as it is a gashog but other than that you should be fine, can you take the ion and throw it in the water pick it up and shoot no i didn't think so. Also one of my friends with an ion slid into some mud and totally screwed up his gun all together ended up bein like a 70 dollar repair. I'd say automag all the way, i love mine to death


GThomas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Who are you again? Joined: 16 June 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4270	Post Options Post Reply Quote GThomas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 12:44am
	Automag, they are extremely reliable and simple guns. They perform great and have plenty of upgrades available for them. But thats my personal preference.

--Red-- Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 13 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 377	Post Options Post Reply Quote --Red-- Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 4:17pm
	so I dont need any upgrades really right?(for the automag) just an o-ring kit because all the orings in it right?

GThomas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Who are you again? Joined: 16 June 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4270	Post Options Post Reply Quote GThomas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 4:58pm
	yeah you don't really need any upgrades, the R/T pro comes with a lot already on it. But there are more upgrades you could get for it that don't come stock. The R/T performs great right out of the box and really doesn't need anything added to it, but there are options available if you decided you wanted to change it around and add some new stuff.

--Red-- Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 13 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 377	Post Options Post Reply Quote --Red-- Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 6:30pm
	ugh....I got 2 ION votes and 2 automag votes....tough decisions..

Gabster08 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 14 December 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 613	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gabster08 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 7:08pm
	i go with ion. but that is only because i dont know alot about the auto mag. so no help there i guess.
	Setup: Super Blue Nexus Ego Ul barrel 45/45 pmi vlocity

--Red-- Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 13 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 377	Post Options Post Reply Quote --Red-- Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 8:18pm
	please tell me why or why not you like each gun

Skillet42565 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Strike 1: Taunting Mods on Facebook Joined: 25 December 2004 Location: Liechtenstein Status: Offline Points: 9556	Post Options Post Reply Quote Skillet42565 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 8:20pm
	I would personally take the Automag over the Ion. It looks better, is simpler to maintain (like a Tippmann almost), and how many guns can you clean with a garden hose? Not too many...


>><< Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member <<>> Joined: 08 February 2004 Location: Byelorussian SSR Status: Offline Points: 1870	Post Options Post Reply Quote >><< Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:48pm
	Ya and if you have your level 10 tuned just stick your finger(or tongue if your brave and shoot away haha i'll post some videos of the level 10 to show the pure awesomeness. alright well i can't get the videos the lvl 10 cd on here but you can go to www.jayloo.com and watch their automag videos, the zak vetter ones are the best Edited by >><< - 22 March 2006 at 10:11pm


GThomas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Who are you again? Joined: 16 June 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4270	Post Options Post Reply Quote GThomas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2006 at 11:13pm
	The Automag is a very simple gun. Very easy to learn maintain and fix, basically because the mag consists of only a few parts. It's extremely durable, alomost as durable as a tippmann. Plenty of upgrades available. You can keep it mechanicle or upgrade it to electronic. Price: Ion wins the price contest. A stock Ion is cheaper then the R/T mag. Durability: Mag is definetely more durable then the Ion. Firing rate: This goes to the Ion, but an electro mag can easily keep up with an Ion. Aftermarket parts: This goes to the mag. The mag has been around forever and has plenty of different upgrades for it. The ion has very few aftermarket upgrades. Customer service: This I would also have to give to AGD. I feel like smart parts could care less about their customers. If you are looking for a mag with more of a speedball feel and look to it I would suggest checking these mags out. www.themagsmith.com

>><< Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member <<>> Joined: 08 February 2004 Location: Byelorussian SSR Status: Offline Points: 1870	Post Options Post Reply Quote >><< Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2006 at 12:19am
	Also if you want to upgrade to an electro later on you have a couple different options such Spydermag, Hyperframe, logic ultimate frame(maybe discontiued), and emag lowers all are very nice and and keep up with the best of them.


Enos Shenk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member ~-o@ Joined: 10 June 2002 Location: A comfy chair Status: Offline Points: 14109	Post Options Post Reply Quote Enos Shenk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2006 at 1:27pm
	Definately go for the mag. Ions are for TWIBBS that dont know any better.


--Red-- Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 13 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 377	Post Options Post Reply Quote --Red-- Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2006 at 4:33pm
	ok so Iv'e pretty much decided on ordering this r/t custom pro mag directly from the AGD website, anyone reccomend a good trigger for the mag?

--Red-- Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 13 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 377	Post Options Post Reply Quote --Red-- Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2006 at 4:34pm
	oh an thanks GTHOMAS for your informative post

Skillet42565 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Strike 1: Taunting Mods on Facebook Joined: 25 December 2004 Location: Liechtenstein Status: Offline Points: 9556	Post Options Post Reply Quote Skillet42565 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2006 at 7:36pm
	For trigger, just get the Intelliframe.


--Red-- Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 13 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 377	Post Options Post Reply Quote --Red-- Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2006 at 8:57pm
	way to expensive