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    Posted: 29 April 2006 at 1:24pm
I was reading an article on aljazeera.com about how life in Iraq was better under Saddam and it's all the US's fault now. Article

Read a comment form a guy, and it made me sick.

Originally posted by Jerry from Germany Jerry from Germany wrote:

"It was better under Saddam. Now we have chaos and we have lost our security. Our country is in a big mess now," This is what a person said from inside Iraq. No question the united torture and terror states will provide a opposite statement.
United torture and terror states? Wow...

Originally posted by Jerry Jerry wrote:

But even then the facts show that you have daily death and destruction, crime and lawless occupiers, torture even worse than under Saddam, kidnappings for money.
Yeah.. it's SOO our fault that people get kidnapped and beheaded by insurgants. Blame it all on the UTTS.

Originally posted by Jerry Jerry wrote:

The facts show that the opposite of what the united torture and terror states claim is true or claim is is reality. It shows the united torture and terror states are the real evil of the world.
Please.. show me those facts.

Originally posted by Jerry Jerry wrote:

They brought to Iraq the united torture and terror states culture of robbing crime and indignity.
So.. the US, sorry, UTTS, made crime? We made robbery? Crime NEVER existed before the UTTS came? Hmm.. learn something new everyday.


Originally posted by Jerry Jerry wrote:

They bring it by soldiers which will kill you when you don't obey.
True.. if you present a threat to someones life. Run at a soldier in ANY country with a weapon, or what can be percieved as a weapon, and lets see what happens.

Originally posted by Jerry Jerry wrote:

They are foreigners.
Point?

Originally posted by Jerry Jerry wrote:

Kill all of the creatures send by the united torture and terror states and get the taste of real freedom. You have justice on your side.
Justice is to kill people trying to raise someones quaility of life? Justice is to kill people for no reason? If so.. Iraq is the most Justic-y country on earth at the moment...and this Jerry fellow must be the Secretary of Justice.


I submitted my comments to AJ.com, but I wont be surprised if they arent posted.

Edited by Linus - 29 April 2006 at 1:25pm

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Oh, but you know better because you lived in Iraq before and after so you can comment?

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Originally posted by Funky Funky wrote:

Oh, but you know better because you lived in Iraq before and after so you can comment?

I never said it wasn't worse, but to blame it on the US is ludacris.

We dont run into peoples houses at night, kidnap them, then behead them if ransom isn't paid.

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Originally posted by Funky Funky wrote:

Oh, but you know better because you lived in Iraq before and after so you can comment?

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That guy is a moron. I hope they post my comments
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I bet life was better...

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I opened this thread while listening to The Press Corpse by Anti-Flag. What are the chances?
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Your point in posting this was....? We all already know there are morons in this world, and you arent proving or accomplishing anything by posting this or putting so much thought into an article that comes from a slightly biased site.
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It kind of is our fault that Iraq is messed up now..I mean, you can't really deny that.

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How about i submit my fist to your face.

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I forsee this turning into a 7 page debate.
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Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

It kind of is our fault that Iraq is messed up now..I mean, you can't really deny that.
We were a catalyst of sorts, yes, but to blame everything on us, or even the majority of it, is ignorance.

Again: We arent the ones killing innocent people for the hell of it, or even on purpose. The insurgants ARE.

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Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

It kind of is our fault that Iraq is messed up now..I mean, you can't really deny that.
Sometimes you gots to break something before it can be fixed.
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:



Again: We arent the ones killing innocent people for the hell of it, or even on purpose. The insurgants ARE.

No, we are killing innocent people everyday.

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Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:



Again: We arent the ones killing innocent people for the hell of it, or even on purpose. The insurgants ARE.

No, we are killing innocent people everyday.
Cedric: I never said we weren't. I said we were doing it on purpose or for fun.

Thanks for reading that correctly.

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Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:



Again: We arent the ones killing innocent people for the hell of it, or even on purpose. The insurgants ARE.

No, we are killing innocent people everyday.
Collateral damage. How many civialians have been killed under Saddams rein for no good reason? Our American soldiers aren't killling Civials for no reason.

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Originally posted by Da Hui Da Hui wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

It kind of is our fault that Iraq is messed up now..I mean, you can't really deny that.
Sometimes you gots to break something before it can be fixed.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:



Again: We arent the ones killing innocent people for the hell of it, or even on purpose. The insurgants ARE.

No, we are killing innocent people everyday.
Cedric: I never said we weren't. I said we were doing it on purpose or for fun.

Well, some of the time, we are doing it on purpose or for fun. We have some messed up people over in Iraq. But most of the time, it's an accident, but they are stil being killed.

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In any conflict all sides much wear an identfiable uniform, this is to limit the number of civilain causalties. They insurgents are scared wimps and do not care about the civilains, so they hide among them putting them in danger.

You keep talking about how the US has done things wrong, but not once have you spoke out against the violations of the insurgents.

They kidnap people and hold them for ransom, that is a violation of the Genivna convention. They torture and behead people, that is a violation. Speak out against all illegal acts.


EDIT: And yes, there are instances. But to balme the whole US for a freak is wrong.

Edited by Linus - 29 April 2006 at 1:56pm

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

We were a catalyst of sorts, yes, but to blame everything on us, or even the majority of it, is ignorance.


You do know the definition of a catalyst, right? Or is your definition different than everyone elses, as was the case with hero?

Regardless, a catalyst is something that starts a series of events. IF we actually were the catalysts of what happened/is happening in the middle east, then we are indeed the reason for everything, or the majority of what is wrong.

While I'm not sure I agree with that, that is what you just admitted to.
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