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    Posted: 26 June 2006 at 5:13pm
NY Times... and the leaking of the bank fund wataching.

This was totally irresponisble for the Times and the other papers involved... just like the NSA wiretaps.




Edited by Linus - 26 June 2006 at 5:14pm

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Damn liberals. 


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Yeah, when will they learn? This is America, not Truthland.
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No one was lying, buddy.

It's called a secret for a reason.

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I'm glad this was exposed.

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Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

I'm glad this was exposed.


Why? 100% legal, and the public really has no reason to know about it.

Edited by Linus - 26 June 2006 at 8:43pm

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I feel everyone deserves to know what's going on.

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Secrets dont make friends.  Friends make secrets.
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Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

I feel everyone deserves to know what's going on.


This topic was on a need to know basis, and 95% of the US didnt need to know.

Now terrorist will take precautions with their funds and put them in accounts we wont know about.


Tell me.. what was so bad about this being a secret? It wasnt illegal.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

I'm glad this was exposed.


Why? 100% legal, and the public really has no reason to know about it.


You use the term 'legal' as if it's some kind of moral description.
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my thread is so much better than this one.
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

I'm glad this was exposed.


Why? 100% legal, and the public really has no reason to know about it.
You use the term 'legal' as if it's some kind of moral description.


It's immoral to publish classified government missions if they dont break any laws and dont concern anyone except the ones that need to know about it, and end up inhibiting our ability to combat terrorist.

Edited by Linus - 26 June 2006 at 9:32pm

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Haha fox news. That made me laugh.
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Why be such a drone Linus? Immoral to publish government secrets? It is the obligation of the media to expose how the government takes away freedoms from its citizens. The story on the wiretaps and this one, are completely necessary as well as ethical. It seems as if sometimes the media, although biased at times, is the organization really looking out for our freedoms. Although it can be said that this type of program is not completely similar to the NSA wiretaps, the people of course have a right to know.

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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Immoral to publish government secrets? It is the obligation of the media to expose how the government takes away freedoms from its citizens.


I disagree. The government was not taking away the rights of any citizens. They are simply watching the movement of their own banknotes in order to (hopefully) protect lives.



The story on the wiretaps and this one, are completely necessary as well as ethical.


This is a completely different program than the wiretaps. This was under the reccomendation of the 9/11 Commission. Congress was briefed. Everything was done by court order.



It seems as if sometimes the media, although biased at times,

I agree.

is the organization really looking out for our freedoms.


I disagree. I think they are simply trying to make money.


Although it can be said that this type of program is not completely similar to the NSA wiretaps, the people of course have a right to know.



I disagree. The government keeps things classified for a reason. While we are announcing every counter-terrorism measure, why not give advance notice by telephone to suspects that we are watching them? Why not send an email to terrorist traing camps saying that the military is on its way? There are certain things that the terrorists should not know. The general public is better off if the terrorists do not know theses things. I think sometimes people forget that, like it or not, we are at war.

If the government wants to track the overseas relocation of money with the possibility of preventing another 9/11, they sure as heck dont have to tell me about it.




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I will always believe that people have the right to know. The media has a duty to report, and we as citizens should know. I understand the attempt to keep it classified; however, I will still stand by my opinion that we have a right to be informed and that the media source should not take criticism for it. Knowing this should not make it difficult to combat terrorism as any educated terrorist should assume that these steps are being taken.

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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

Knowing this should not make it difficult to combat terrorism as any educated terrorist should assume that these steps are being taken.


I'd rather not gamble on an assumption that terrorists are educated.



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dune, they didn't take away or violate a freedom in this case yo. read up on what happened, then come back to the thread.
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