Oil Lubrication Thread

Does putting oil in your asa actually oil your valve and is it bad for it to touch any stops it may encounter on the way?  Say a reg with vasoline or p-jelly in it.  Which leads to another question.  I get much talk of manufacturers lubing their regs and such with vasoline.  Is vasoline the same as p-jelly or just similar, and will p-jelly eat away at orings and vasoline will not.

Main topic question:
What is the best way to lube each part of your gun? 

Ill sticky this as Im hoping for just expert advice here to be talked out, not to argue.

Thanks and I hope will all benefit from this as there is much dispute on this, myself included.


Edited by FA22RaptorF22 - 29 June 2006 at 12:41am

As Dan said, easy as that. Don't know where this idea of Vaseline (same as petrolatum/petroleum jelly) for lube came from. It may work, but it certainly isn't designed for that.

A few drops of light oil (Hoppe's Gun Oil or Air Tool oil, either will work just fine) in the ASA before installing the tank and then dry firing, without the barrel, distributes oil to all the necessary places. It lubes and cleans regulators, the power valve sealing surfaces and oils the "O" ring on the hammer(rear bolt). You might need to add one or two drops directly on the "O" ring on the forward bolt, but you are done.

It is recommended that a little heavier grease on the hammer "O" ring can improve function when that "O ring gets worn a bit. White lithium grease is the proper choice.

A little lithium grease smeared on the areas of the inside of the marker shell against which the rear bolt slides will make the marker function more smoothly. Particularly after you have done an internal polish job.

S\/\/4T-L()G4N wrote: I do not believe that pretroleum jelly or grease has any place in a paintball gun. Grease is not made for oiling fast moving sliding parts of this nature. Light oil not only will last a long time, but it will do just as good of a job lubricating the marker.

Edited by Dan db09 - 29 June 2006 at 4:50pm

thanks...im going to try some of that stuff

So using lithium grease for pistons / orings and such, and oil ie gold cup,  for the valve and stuff is my best bet?  Lithium grease is just a better replacement for the jelly right?  My personal favorite...is the slick honey...any of you guys use that?

As for lubing the valve, my lpk valve has a c-clip on it so its easy to disassemble, so i usually lube it that way.  Is oil in the asa do the same thing?

Edit: all this is on a gun like yours bruce...so no rear o ring and such.  I have a lpk'ed, 2 way ebolt, w/ 05 ego frame uncapped. Aluminum powertube / delerin front bolt.  

Thanks 

Edited by FA22RaptorF22 - 30 June 2006 at 12:05am

My personal favorites for lubrication , are similar to what FA22 called "Slick honey" , namely a synthetic lubricant , usually with teflon,or molecular molybdnium (Moly), unaffected by temperature changes, or mild chemical concentrations .

My use of grease is sparingly , on the CO2 tank O-ring , and just barely enough on the rear bolt area to tell something's been put there, but not enough to see , and then I follow up with a couple drops of oil on the rear bolt too , to lighten up the grease's tendency to be thick . Everything else gets oil , straight up .

To lubricate the CVX valves internals , it most convenient to do exactly as everybody's said so far,,,a couple drops in the air supply adapter and dry fire your marker (please remove the barrel tho , oil in the barrel is as bad as a broken ball , and harder to see ) about 20-30 times to thoroughly work the oil through the innards . I've disassembled the CVX valves before , it takes some specialized tools most people dont have (snap ring pliers , small scribes , pin punches and such )and can be a challenge even with those tools , definitly not worth the trouble involved for lubricating the CVX valve !!

 Tippmann does (or did) use teflon sealing paste where the hose connects into the CVX valve , and after about 6 months of fairly consistent use every weekend or so,, some of that paste migrated onto the sealing face of the valve , causing the symptom of a bad CVX valve , this in part happened because I lubricated the marker regularly throught the ASA , but would have happened eventually anyway . After replacing the CVX valve with a new one , I took apart the old one and discovered this . Just a heads up , I've heard of this happening and most people just replace the valve when its really not bad .

Stay AWAY from anything that claims to be a penetrating oil , they contain solvents as S\/\/4T-L()G4N said and will slowly dissolve your o-rings , once the solvent evaporates , your orings will crack .

Edited by Shadowminion - 03 July 2006 at 8:13pm

S\/\/4T-L()G4N wrote: Are you talking about white lithium? Because there are obviously different lithiums...

You can buy lithium grease in tubes (probably what you are using), and it can also be found in spray cans. It is available in auto parts stores, it is marketed to spray on squeaky hinges, etc.

What about the inside of the reg/valve?

Meh, Im still opposed to the whole idea of oiling the ASA and calling it a day. Theres absolutely no replacement for taking the gun apart and cleaning the thing.

Oil mixes with dirt that gets in your gun and soon you have basically mud coating your internals if you never crack the thing open.

Oil in the ASA is good for one thing: Oiling the valve and any air gear on the gun. I would NOT rely on it to lube the main action of the gun.

The only thing you should really be using grease for is the cyclone.