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    Posted: 07 June 2006 at 11:05pm

Hello,

This will be my first post on the board and I would like to say I'm new the sport, just got my old cheap model 98 a week ago, and would like a little information regarding the desired dimensions of the paint compared to barrel it is to be fired through...

I'm currently using a digital slide caliper to measure the paint and the largest reading I'm getting is .670" and the lowest is .650". The paint is of unknown origin and was given to me by a friend but I'm pretty sure it is cheap Wal-Mart stuff (I just don't know the brand). But isn't this a horrible tolerance? Some of the tolerance may be in the measuring devices "squeezing" the paintball but if so what other devices do the pros use to measure their paintballs?

After multiple measurements of both my Boomstick and stock barrel they come out to .687", so is this paintball a horrible fit in this barrel? I am having some accuracy and consistency problems but of course I'm just starting out and also have some questions regarding the gun adjustment...

Even it may be accounted to my poor aiming my gun currently can't stay within an acceptable "pattern". One shot may be decent to my sights, but the next may miss the target completely. A friend of mine with an out of the box 98C Pro can put me to shame in terms of speed of firing, accuracy, and consistency, and his gun has a much higher velocity than mine. Would an expansion chamber may help me this significantly?

Any general rules for gun adjustment, mods, and techniques to improve my accuracy would be very appreciated, thank you.

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That is very poor tolerance for paint. I would suggest getting something a little better next time.

As for your shooting, paintballs are inheriently inaccurate. It is perfectly normal to have shots like that, especially while using bad paint like you were.
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Paintballs are just not really accurate at all, or atleast the kind you bought.  To test the size of the paint, instead of measuring it, just drop it into your barrel, and if it falls right through, it's too small, and if it's stuck, and you CAN'T push it out, it's too big.  If it slides through slowly, or usually touches the sides, or you can push it through, with no problem, and it doesn't fall through, it's fine.  An expansion chamber will help your velocity be more consistent, and not spike as much.  
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Thanks guys, just the kind of information I was looking for.
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Paintballs aren't made to bullet tight tolerances. The thing to remember is that there is more than size to affect performance of the paint...one of the biggest issues is quality of the paint, and the current condition of it.
Big chain stores like Walmart aren't the best place to buy paint, beause they won't be likely to take care of it like a paintball shop would...keeping it from freezing, or letting it melt, or simply storing it in a warehouse for way too long until the paint get all dimpled.

A good rule of thumb is that when attempting to insert a paintball into the breech end of the barrel, it should not be so small that it rolls out the barrel, but it shouldn't be so tight that you have to force it into the barrel. Otherwise, that should be all the more you should need to know about paint/barrel match.
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Originally posted by GibTG GibTG wrote:

Hello,

I'm new the sport, just got my old cheap model 98 a week ago.....his gun has a much higher velocity than mine.

An old cheap model 98 may be in need of a new drive spring. This could account for low velocity. 

One shot, One kill.... Oh, wait. What fun is that? TEN shots, one kill, and a bunch of welts on your back.
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Really? Can you get a spring to easy replace it or do you have to talk to tippmann? 
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i would search look at paintball websites or even look for a proshop near you. Or ask tippmann
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put a paintball in the barrel and look down the barrel (when its off the marker obviously) and the paintball should touch the barrel at 3 points. any less and its too small more and its to big
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All good info here, but I did get some measurements on some Zap balls today, some measured right at .687" so I think they will be a little better for me.
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Springs are available from most paintball stores...one example here.
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Sorry to bring back a post from the dead but I figured this would be a good topic to ask about paint fit in a flatline as well. I'm trying one out now and trying to learn to shoot with it and not having much luck, at short range the balls are dropping unbelievably low and sometimes curving off to the left but the distance is amazing, and I'm especially liking the distance for woodsball. But anyway the flatline is measuring around .698-.699" and my paint is measuring right at .680, if this acceptable? What is a choice paint for the flatline?
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Small bore paint for the flatline. The flatline is one of two exceptions for the "good paint to bore match." .680 would be about right.
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the flatline is a picky little booger, but if you meet its "requirements" it is a great barrel. the flatline itself is a large bore barrel, but to get the proper effects, a small bore paint is needed. .680 paint should be fine. also, you need to "tune" the flatty. make sure the barrel is vertical, or the balls will shoot the directon of the tilt. ex: if it is tilted a little to the left, the paint will hook left. also, the best velocity for a flatline is around 280. conveniently, that is the velocity limit on most fields.

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i BLOW my paintballs through the barrels to find the best match
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Thanks for the good info again guys. Now that I took the barrel back off to clean it I think it was slightly cocked and I believe I fixed the problem, but I'm also wondering about the finish of the barrel. I bought it heavily used so I'm wondering if it really wasn't take care of. If you can see anything in them, here are some pictures, I apologize for the poor quality. There are many score marks going along the length of the barrel but I don't believe the bead finish is polished yet but I'm somewhat unsure.

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Its a good rule of thumb that if you put a ball in the barrel, and there are three points where the ball is touching the barrel. Thats a good bore match.
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Monk,
   
    We've established that already, please read through the thread if you plan on posting.

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You can send the faltline in to tippmann to get the inside reblasted if you believe it needs to be. They should do this for free. Call them up.
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a good thing to do if you must buy paint at walmart is to ask to open the box and check the paint. most places will let you and if they dont, then dont shop there.
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