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    Posted: 14 July 2006 at 7:12pm

Not sure if you've seen the info on my e-bolt project, but I wanted to give you all the info and ask a few questions.

Currently I'm running an 98 Custom with a BSI ram, Tippman ASA/Reg, Timmy Noid, Rufus Dawg stick trigger, and I just had to put the BSI board back in (My Pred. board fried, it was used out of a friends gun, but it was freed at least).  The barrel i'll be using on it is my DYE Ultralite. 
I'm ordering my LPK sometime soon, I already have the funds, just shopping around a little.  And it will be fed by a z-board eggy.

I want to put a Rufus Dawg centerfeed on it.  How hard is this to do?  Is it a do it yourself job, or do I have to send it off to be installed. 

Next, What is the best LPR for the LPK?  I'm looking at a palmers fatty, but I wanted to make sure there wasn't something else out there I should be looking at.

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Use the stab
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You're suggesting the standard Palmer's instead of the fatty?  What reasoning is it behind this.  I can see the usefullness, but aren't the Fatty's more consistant at lower presures?
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The Fatty's have a wider ratio 92:1 vs 70:1 for the Stab for regulating the air. The Fattys also have a little better performance concerning the recharge rate.
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That's what I was thinking.  Do any of you know of any other Stabilizers that would be comparable to this one, or better? 

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The fatty isnt high enough pressure. Even for the LPK.
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Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

The fatty isnt high enough pressure. Even for the LPK.

With the E-Bolt ram it is. Haven't I said it enough by now for you to see it around the forum: If you don't need the blow back to cock the hammer, you do not have to maintain 400 psi to operate the 98.

Failure to cock is the problem if you try to run too low pressures. There is no "cocking" required with a electro-pneumatically operated ram.

My 98C with the E-Bolt and LPK and the Hammerhead barrel (Nelson Hemorrhage paint) is giving me 275 fps at only 140 psi. Even with barrels that take a lot of gas, such as my Apex, I am still operating at on 240 psi...all well within the range of the Palmer Fatty.

Deadeye, there is nothing out there that is better than the Palmer...there is cheaper, yes...more expensive, yes...better, no!



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That was the sort of definitive answer I was looking for.  The Fatty it is then. 
Hopefully I'll be able to order it and the LPK and have the gun fully equipped and ready for the field on the 29th...  That is the next big day at the local field. 

Now, what about the centerfeed...  Anyone got any advice?

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Check this out.
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wow, that's exactly what i needed to know...  awesome, that doesn't look too hard.  I'm sure i can get a whole like that drilled in no problem, just need a lot of lube! 

Next question.  I got the Tippmann ASA/reg today (thanks Bruce), but how do you mount the thing?  It looks like a wearver mount...
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Originally posted by deadeyevt deadeyevt wrote:

wow, that's exactly what i needed to know...  awesome, that doesn't look too hard.  I'm sure i can get a whole like that drilled in no problem, just need a lot of lube! 

Next question.  I got the Tippmann ASA/reg today (thanks Bruce), but how do you mount the thing?  It looks like a wearver mount...

Can't tell you the brand, but in looking through the drop forwards at a paintball store there were several that fit. There were also adapters that let it fit on any drop forward. It wasn't unique.

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got ya, I found an Empire Nano rail that i believe will work.  Please correct me if i'm wrong.

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Originally posted by deadeyevt deadeyevt wrote:

got ya, I found an Empire Nano rail that i believe will work.  Please correct me if i'm wrong.

It has been a while since I used that thing. As I think about it, there may be a part that came with it. Let me look a bit.

HOLD ON: I found the adapter that bolted the ASA to the bottom of the grip. This will allow the ASA to fit any drop forward that accepts a Tippmann ASA (standard or E-Bolt one). I'll drop it in the mail today. Sorry that I overlooked the part when I sent the ASA.



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hey brucy, what do u think my gun will work at??

if u dont remember air/ebolt related specs:

  • ccm reg
  • macro
  • 48/3000psi(hp)
  • hammerhead lpr
  • lpk
  • 2-way ebolt ram
  • boblong solenoid
  • eclipse qev'(s)
  • dm stlye led predator board
  • custom seal(little tight)

what do ya think, i was hoping like 200(7piece 14in empire barrel kit if that makes a dif)

 

 

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Originally posted by PaintballPIMPIN PaintballPIMPIN wrote:

hey brucy, what do u think my gun will work at??

if u dont remember air/ebolt related specs:

  • ccm reg
  • macro
  • 48/3000psi(hp)
  • hammerhead lpr
  • lpk
  • 2-way ebolt ram
  • boblong solenoid
  • eclipse qev'(s)
  • dm stlye led predator board
  • custom seal(little tight)

what do ya think, i was hoping like 200(7piece 14in empire barrel kit if that makes a dif)

If you work with your dwell and ram pressure and are running paint that is a good diameter match to the barrel, I would expect less than 200 psi.

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Originally posted by karll karll wrote:

Check this out.

Unless you are or know a professional machinist, I'd recommend you let Rufus Dawg do the mod for you. I had a Friend of mine who builds and repairs machinery for a living do mine and I experienced some major problem afterwords. It took a lot of fine sanding on the lip and bore of the centerfeed hole to set things right.

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i did my own with drill, lots of dif size bits and a die grinder(have worked with tools all of my life, turning 14 and my father owns a car shop) and it works great, but would not recomend it cuase it does not look very nice....works but isnt like beautful.
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Yeh, i'm pretty good with a drill and a dremil, so i'll prolly do it myself.  I just don't have the time to send it off at this point to have it drilled.
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