flatline vs apex

the apex is alot better then the flatline...there really isint much of a consideration behind it...i dont feel like going into alot of detail about it...but it performs better on every level and you can change the arc of your shots with the slide...and it looks better...

ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them...

Never seen proof of the Apex having more than 5-ft of extra range...most people to tend to forget that some fields, and of course tournaments, do not allow the Apex. You can change the velocity just by adjusting it. I'll stick with my Flatline.

-Tippmann A-5
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-X-Core
-JCS Aluminum Powertube
-JCS Hexagon Bolt
-Q.E.V.
-Vortex
-E-Grip
-Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA
-Macro-Line
-Anti-Siphon C02

ok let's say accuracy and breakage..i know the further out you are the lesser of each but was just wondering from someone who has used both

accuracy apex X10000

breakage in apex is about the same as a stock barrel probably beter though... wouldnt know ive never broken a ball. with improper paint on the flatline you have a blender.

cool..what about breaking when the target is hit? have you used the both?

I have been using the Flatline since the first month it came out. As long as you install it correctly(not hard to do) and use good paint, it performas excellently. The only thing that the Apex can do that the Flatline would have a hard time doing is the drop shot where you put forward spin on it. Hook shots are just as easy with the Flatline, just turn the gun sideways... no need to adjust anything. Plus with a Flatline you don't have to worry about replacing the rubber tongue when it wears.

¤ RaVeN ¤ wrote:

...and it looks better...

I wholeheartedly disagree with that statement. That's pretty much the only reason I haven't bought an Apex yet: it's ugly. Now if they could make a Apex that looks like a Flatty (I don't like the M-16 version or any of the others I've seen so far), I'd buy it. I'll probably buy one eventually just b/c everyone says it performs better, but my barrel works great for now.

carl_the_sniper wrote:

and who uses a flatline for tournaments

Why not?

carl_the_sniper wrote:

with improper paint on the flatline you have a blender.

I’ve used $20/2000 Walmart specials and they kick in the Flatty. The only paint I’ve ever broken in my Flatty is Heat, and that was only a couple out of 1000. I don’t know what everyone is talking about.

carl_the_sniper wrote:

i know a guy who unloaded 10 ft away with a flatline, none of them broke.

I’m sorry, Carl, you seem like a pretty honest, forthright person, but this statement sounds like a load. What was he using, steel shot at 150FPS?

Everyone also says that the Apex is more accurate, which I might tend to believe, but at <150’ I can hit pretty much whatever I want with the Flatty with a couple of shots, so I’m not running out to buy an Apex ASAP. I love how a year or two ago, the Flatty was king but now it’s a POS. Physics must have changed in the interim.

So from my perspective, in summation, if you like the look of the Apex, get it. If not, go for the Flatty.

"I'm a riddle so strong, you can't break me."

jerseypaint wrote:

Apex>Flatline. Simple because you can screw it on/off, smooth bore, and no curve. These thing make it easier to clean and switch out when you want another barrel.

With the quick disconnect bolts that I have, I can remove my Flatty in under 10 seconds.

"I'm a riddle so strong, you can't break me."

Mr. Blonde wrote:

Netramakin where can you get the quick disconnect bolts?

I've tried two different eBay sources. This set...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Best-Tippmann-A-5-A5-Flatline-Barrel-Qui ck-Change-Kit_W0QQitemZ170034730761QQihZ007QQcategoryZ36285Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

...is from media_mechanix, but they aren't quite as heavy duty as mtbegg's (still nice, though), but mtbegg doesn't seem to have any for sale right now. Here's what they look like installed (disregard the funky sling; I was trying to get an answer on that thing from this board and I don't have another pic of the bolts here at work):

The three bolts with the large heads near the front of the marker are what I'm talking about. Simply untighten by hand (spin 'em) and remove the barrel. This pic doesn't do them justice.

Edited by netramakin - 06 October 2006 at 1:55pm

"I'm a riddle so strong, you can't break me."

netramakin wrote:

jerseypaint wrote:

Apex>Flatline. Simple because you can screw it on/off, smooth bore, and no curve. These thing make it easier to clean and switch out when you want another barrel.

With the quick disconnect bolts that I have, I can remove my Flatty in under 10 seconds.

But then you have to put the adapter back in, on order to put on another barrel. That also takes up time.