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    Posted: 30 December 2006 at 3:29am
Im looking into getting a autococker. I want a electric frame w/eyes. when did they start to put eyes into them? and why is the price differences on blackmagics & other cockers?
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If you don't know much about markers, i wouldn't suggest getting a cocker, I know the tubbing in the front makes them look bad a$$, but really, just stick something that is easier for a beginner to learn how electro's work. (dye, Timmy, ego, or SP, would be my suggestions)
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Autocockers are the type of marker that you build, not buy.

I would suggest looking into something different if you are looking for out of the box proformance.
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Originally posted by an94 an94 wrote:

Im looking into getting a autococker. I want a electric frame w/eyes. when did they start to put eyes into them? and why is the price differences on blackmagics & other cockers?


Don't go for a black magic its a lower end cocker that has been quasi half-blocked and is not very amazing in comparision to a 05 superstock. the reason why they charge so much is because the work needed to half-block one is quite hard to do. And if you get a different one you can have it half blocked and converted to a turtle 'cocker or a racegun one.
table of what really makes your marker work
*Gnomes= autocockers
*Fairies= Angels
*Pixies= Timmys
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*goblins= spyders
*elves= mags    
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^Black Magics arent bad/shoddy guns at all.

I would look more towards a Dye Matrix or SP Ion.

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I didn't say they were shoddy! I just said that the halfblock makes up the bulk of its cost and that there are some better options . huge dif!
table of what really makes your marker work
*Gnomes= autocockers
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Ive owned many cockers and while they were fun guns to shoot you must know how the marker works before you can shoot one without any problems.

Because of all the moving parts it may become confusing to someone who has never used a cocker.

Check out the guide to mech cockers I wrote under the stickied thread "Great Guns" at the top of this forum. Once you understand the mech cocker it will be easier to understand how an electro cocker works.
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well Im just starting to look into cockers. I got a upped ion right now, and I love it. I am mec inclined, so I know I would not try to mess with its timing without reading about it first. then I would talk to someone that knows how to do it properly. I have a guy that is trying to sell me a prostock to me for about $100 IDK if its electro or mec. there is a "2k2 cocker" down at my local shop for $200 obo. its electric & has eyes, NO barrel, stock bolt. I know I would not pay $200 for it. maybe $125-150
how much is a turtled/half blocked E cocker go for? and I will not buy one if it doesnt have eyes in it. Im looking to spend about $150 at the most.
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Edited by an94 - 31 December 2006 at 3:49am
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^They dont...but Mags = elves should be in there.

Good luck finding a turtled e-cocker with eyes for only $150.

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http://www.cockerownersgroup.com/index.php...e=Content&p id=1

ultimate interactive diagram for cocker owners

http://www.accesswave.ca/~devon/timingmx/TIMINGMXv11.html

best idea on how to time an autockcocker

http://www.cockerownersgroup.com/index.php?name=Content& pid=6

best moving diagram

also if you get a gemini kit from gforce you won't really need eyes. just an idea...




as for elves = mags
and ions = throw me some ideas

    Also I only say cockers are run by leprechauns because my friends cocker (that i often end up timing) shoots great whenever i hold it and since i'm irish they're obviously leprechauns in cockers too partying with the gnomes.




Edited by Connmann - 31 December 2006 at 1:57pm
table of what really makes your marker work
*Gnomes= autocockers
*Fairies= Angels
*Pixies= Timmys
*leprachauns= tippys
*goblins= spyders
*elves= mags    
*lawyers= smartparts
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OK OK maybe $200. I seen one on the nation that the guy was asking $350 its halfblocked 2k2. I like the look of it. the only reply on it is some guy saying good luck getting $350 out of it. cause its only worth 2ish on a good day. Maybe Ill be lucky & find a cheap karny..
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Originally posted by sinisterNorth sinisterNorth wrote:

^They dont...but Mags = elves should be in there.



Oh no no no my friend, elves definitely aren't what make mags work... First off, mags don't work, and when, on certain occasions they half-work, it's done by fairies, definitely fairies......
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okyou guys are full of crap Mags work wonders there awsome. As for electro cockers. get an E-1 or 2 just the best


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i am a cocker owner, builder, and lover

if you want an e-cocker, i would trust WGP to drill the holes for eyes a little more than the local shop, but thats me (summing up, buy it new with the e-blade if you want it)

and as for the "fear" of owning a cocker because you dont know how it works...how do you think cocker owners learn how they work (hate to break it to you, its not gnomes), you get one and learn by experience, its not all that complicated

just dont start with one of those trilogys and expect to spend more than a couple hundred bucks

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why would I buy a new stock cocker for 500 when I can get a used upp'd one for 200 or less?
and dont worry Im not going to get a triogy, unless I get one for 30 bucks
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