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    Posted: 11 January 2007 at 8:52am

So can I take the valve assembly off my 3000 crossfire alum. tank and put it on my crossfire 4500 coke bottle? Then change out the burst disks?

*My 4500 1.8 burst disk keeps blowing and I dont want to send it in. I've heard horror stories about crossfire service.

If you know a solution that would be great.


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Would be wise to get a second or third opinion and not simply go on my own... but as far as I know, yes, that would be fine.
Most replacement/new regs I see only vary by output... not by input. Which would appear to me to say that you could use them on either 3k or 4.5k tanks without issue.
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The issue is actually getting the assembly off of your tank. Various valves have different threads based upon what year they were made, which manufacturer made them, and sometimes, even what pressure the tank holds. Also, certain thread lockers are used on HPA tanks that require special tools or "spuds" to get them off. I had a hard time getting my AA Armageddon hydroed a few years back due to this.

Why does your burst disk keep failing? That's not a good sign.
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Not sure why it is doing it.

I talked to the guy at the shop and he said to just order a new tank reg. They are fairly cheap so that sound like a plan.

Thanks for the help.


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Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

So can I take the valve assembly off my 3000 crossfire alum. tank and put it on my crossfire 4500 coke bottle? Then change out the burst disks?

*My 4500 1.8 burst disk keeps blowing and I dont want to send it in. I've heard horror stories about crossfire service.

If you know a solution that would be great.



I had a 3000 PSI Crossfire that the burst disk failed on twice in a week. When I had the tank inspected the problem was a regulator failure that could have eventually allowed full tank pressure into my marker. (They explained more thoroughly than that, but I would only screw up what they said if I tried to get technical.)
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Yep Mack, that's why I am not using it right now. I was told to put a larger burst disk in, but then that could happen and would probably ruin my marker.


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if you're looking for a new reg... i suggest guerilla regs.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Justice Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2007 at 3:08pm

Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

if you're looking for a new reg... i suggest guerilla regs.

Hey you know Brian at the shop too? lol

He said the same thing.


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if a 3000 psi reg will fit on a 4500 psi tank it should be fine... however i wouldent recomend filling the tank over 3000psi.
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It should be fine to switch but I thought crossfire regs were one of the best. Basically it is just the springs that are messed up unless you have opened it up and messed with it and accidently chipped something inside. My 1.8 kept brsting because the output pressure rose too much also. Putting a simple pressure piece on the reg that your pro shop should have, they could show you if the pressure rises gradually.
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^ ok. I will ask about that too.

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Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

if you're looking for a new reg... i suggest guerilla regs.


agreed they're lighter than crossfire and the ref at my field (owns 07 ego or a 06 ego, not sure) can't manange to make ever it shoot-down.
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Originally posted by merc merc wrote:

if a 3000 psi reg will fit on a 4500 psi tank it should be fine... however i wouldent recomend filling the tank over 3000psi.


They are the same threads. C02 and HPA tank threads are the same threads as well.
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Originally posted by Connmann Connmann wrote:

Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

if you're looking for a new reg... i suggest guerilla regs.


agreed they're lighter than crossfire and the ref at my field (owns 07 ego or a 06 ego, not sure) can't manange to make ever it shoot-down.

God damn, recharge is so overrated these days. It takes a lot of effort to make the crappiest reg on the market give you any dropoff.

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Originally posted by 636andy636. 636andy636. wrote:


Originally posted by merc merc wrote:

if a 3000 psi reg will fit on a 4500 psi tank it should be fine... however i wouldent recomend filling the tank over 3000psi.
They are the same threads. C02 and HPA tank threads are the same threads as well.


The difference is in the internal threads--HPA regulators have a threaded piece that goes down into the tank, which doesn't exist on CO2 tanks, and can change from one HPA regulator to another.

That said, yes, switching tanks on your reg should work, but the reg could have trouble keeping the pressure in your gun low enough (causing blown o-rings, etc). If you get a new reg, you should be good.
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Yep thanks guys for all the help.

I dropped it off Saturday at the shop so hopefully I can get a new reg on it by next weekend.


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