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    Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:44pm
I think its a PGP but I have no idea what model or anything, i tried typing in everything that was stamped into its barrel into google and it came up with nothing.

It had a little ductape repair as its rear bolt dosnt work without it (it needs to be welded or something)

Sorry for the crappy pictures, I cant find the cord for my nikon and just had to use some $20 junk digital camera lol




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pariel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2007 at 11:07pm
Well, it's in the "PGP family". Frankly, I'm not entirely sure about where you should go to find out more about it, but it looks cool.
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yea... i wanted to find some manual or whatever to tell me how its supposed to attatch the link arm from the pump to the rear bolt... because if its welded you cant take the gun apart, but theres not screw or pin or anything... thus the ductape

Edited by CriscoCube - 02 February 2007 at 11:09pm
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Well it would be easier to tell if the pics werent so big but it does look quite a bit like the pgp but I don't think the pgp had a feedneck.
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That would be a Palmer's Pursuit Shop Stroker.

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/214/

Looks to be an early version of it. Check PPS's website for a manual or customer service number.

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It's not a stroker. It looks to me like a Piranha SB. If it was a stroker, it would have a ram on the left side and I think an LPR on the right. It lacks both. I can understand you confusion because the stroker (which is a Sheridan based pump that is modified to be autococking by Palmers) at PB Review is a modified version of the gun you see here.


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I was gonna say...I'm pretty sure the Stroker is an autococker, modified from a pump, and doesn't gonna come in a pump version (the Stroker itself being the conversion to autococking).

PPS makes/made some beautiful guns though.
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palmer's Shop stroker I think! It is a Palmer's for sure.
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palmers stroker 
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Most Definitely NOT a Palmer's Stroker. There is nothing on that marker to make it semi-auto, which is what stroker conversions do. It is simply a Right feed C/A converted PMI 1 or 2 short-barrel. Without clearer pictures, I can't tell you which it is. Glenn may have had his hands on it at some point (possibly the C/A conversion) but it's not a Palmer's Product.

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P.S. the pump arm should have a 90* bend in the end of it to loop through a hole in the back of the hammer and bolt assembly.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Styro Folme Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2007 at 3:51pm
everyone on this forum isn't even close.  it's a piranha sb.


check google images

edit: tolga, you where right.


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At least I found the base form of the thing and didn't confuse a Pump for a Semi....
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^^lol.

btw, don't sell that thing.  it will be worth some money.


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^^lol. btw, don't sell that thing. it will be worth some money.


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yea, i've already had several offers on it at my local arena, someone said it was a pgp but i couldnt find one that looked like it.

And yes it is definently a sb, thank you very much for your help!

BTW, any ideas on what its worth if its arm was fixed?

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I plan on fixing the link arm, as well as polishing it and tuning the barrel (right now throwing paintballs is more accurate then it lol) and fixing a leak it appears to have whenever the pump is in the back position (i assume the design wouldnt have it leak gas out lol)

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I haven't seen any on E-Bay recently, but to give you an example. There's a newer P-68 going on e-bay right now for over $60 and it's still got 3 days left. Clean it up, repair it, re-paint it, and you'll be good to go.
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hmm well generally newer means less expensive in collecting, but I dont plan to sell it anyways, I personnaly think its a nice gun for my collection along with my SL68-2 and other old guns i have lol!
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i'm sure you could make another link arm easily.  maybe even one off a pgp will work, due to it being sb.
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sheridan still carries parts for these guns.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CriscoCube Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 February 2007 at 5:47pm
really? cool, I ended up figuring out the link arm, apparently im just missing a handle to pull back that tube sticking out the back w/ the threading on it, as i pull that back and it locks the link arm into place, i also spent like 4 hours cleaning the tarnish off and now it looks awsome =D
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