New Weapon for Israel

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/tavor/Tavo r.html

I know this is not anything new, but I was thinking that I whould prefer this to the M-8, which is going to be the replcement to the M-16, bullpups are better, more balanced and most of all shorter whithout sacrificing accruracy.

I'm not sure if it has as much to do with 'waiting for their current weapons to wear out' as it has been 'waiting to work out all the bugs on the Tavor before issuing'.
It had early developmental problems, just like any other design. And they're smart enough to hold off on issuing on a mass-scale until the rifle is good-to-go.

I'm sure it's not too difficult. Maybe a little awkward especially when in a poopstorm of incoming... but the Brits, French, Aussies, New Zealanders, Irish, and Austrians have been using bullpups for a while now, and seem to manage.

ChiCom's new rifles are bullpup as well.

there replacing the m16 with the SCAR series i believe. 

As far as I know, NOTHING has been chosen for a M-16 replacement. XM-8 was killed long ago after many problems came up in testing.

SCAR won a SOCOM competition, but as of yet remains only with SOCOM and not an overall replacement. As far as I know, it hasn't been delivered/issued yet.

The HK416 has seen limited action with some SOF operators in the sandbox. Capitol Police recently replaced their G36Ks with HK416s. Along with SCAR, it's another contender for a replacement, with the advantage of being a cost-saver since it only replaces the upper half of the -16 series.

Time will tell what replaces Stoner's design.

The SCAR (L) has about a pound and a half of weight on top of an M4 carbine, and seems a bit bulkier and longer... I'm not sure if that's the way to go. A new family based on the 416 design has a lot of promise though.

As for the bullpups, I'd have to have some hands on to really form an educated opinion about the ergonomics... The mag placement just strikes me initially as being a tad awkward.

Kristofer wrote: did the Israelis just develop something even better that was showcased on FutureWeapons?

The tavor was featured on future weapons. It looks like a great gun, but its not for us lefties. The FN FS2000 looks like a cool little rifle, and its legal for all of us peasents living in the free states(sorry Kalifornia)

evillepaintball wrote: MT. Vigilante wrote: http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/tavor/Tavo r.html I know this is not anything new, but I was thinking that I whould prefer this to the M-8, which is going to be the replcement to the M-16, bullpups are better, more balanced and most of all shorter whithout sacrificing accruracy. do you live under a rock?

Under a rock, Montana, what's the difference?

I think calling anything made by Israeli Military Industries a "knock-off" is ridiculous. Similar design, yes. Cheap copy, no.

Kristofer wrote: Downside is the removable rear site, thing can fall off, also makes it slightly not pracitcal for range shooting for rifle qualification.

Yeah, I'm not keen on the removable BUIS. But I do like the ability to slap on optics... so... fixed sights, or flattop rail...??

Decided to compromise for myself... RRA UTE2, fixed sight, half-flattop.   
Now if I could only afford a EOTech...