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Need help: pmr + reballs?

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    Posted: 06 February 2007 at 9:01pm

My moms pmr cant shoot reballs! I load the hopper, air the gun, fire real rounds no problem. i replace the paintballs by reballs the first one shoots and all the others seem to roll out. The detends are perfectly fine and new. The settings are stock etc They shoot fin out of a pm5, a shocker, and my 98.

Anyone have the sollution to this? a friend on another forum has the same problem.

Btw, i know this is the "tippmann" forum, ive been reminded by a few last time i posted my dads pm5... but i unfortunatly dont go on 20 forums...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lester98c Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2007 at 10:06pm
Replace the stock detents with Dm5/6 spring detends, seems to be what people are sugesting over in the Dye forum.

How do you like your PMR?  I have one on its way to me right now.
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WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH. WOAH.


HOLLLLLD THE PHONE.

your mom plays paintball, and owns a pmr?
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Originally posted by bravecoward bravecoward wrote:

WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH. WOAH.


HOLLLLLD THE PHONE.

your mom plays paintball, and owns a pmr?

What phone?

What are the stock detents like? I wish guns started to become stock with delrin spring detents.

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It doesn't sound to me like the detents. What kind of loader are you using?  I'd guess that the reballs are simply smaller than the barrel back on the gun, and the constant pressure of the loader is simply forcing them out.
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I would hate to have to rely on my back to keep the ball in place.

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Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

I would hate to have to rely on my back to keep the ball in place.

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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

I would hate to have to rely on my back to keep the ball in place.

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Yeah I know. One of the reasons I will never shoot one.

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Yer missing out ,

my stock Prostock shoots almost as well as my Upped 98C , yeah its kind of a pain to keep a good paint to bore match (and Very critical with the cocker ) .

 I started using Marbs and a barrel kit and now shoot far fewer rounds in a day of rec-ball , because more of them actually go where I intend !

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Originally posted by bravecoward bravecoward wrote:

WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH. WOAH.


HOLLLLLD THE PHONE.

your mom plays paintball, and owns a pmr?

Pretty cool huh? Shes played once and my dad buys her a better gun than i have lol!

Anyways, stock detents are simply rubber knobs that hold hte ball in place. the detents are fine, i checked them carefully.

Maybe its the hopper, but iam using a reloader b...

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Two problems with the reusable rounds:

  • Reballs seem to be a smaller bore than even the smallest paint and can get by most detents systems/sized backs.
  • The older "foam" type reusables have a tendency to deform and jam up.
Unfortunately, that's just the way it is.

Your best bet for your situation is to look for some aftermarket detents that protrude farther into the chamber. Alternatively, you can pick up some small rubber stops/bumpers similar to this at a hardware store and carve it down to make your own extended/heavy duty detents. (I had to do this with a PT extreme I owned; the stock detent was worthless.)
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stock halo b's and reloader b's HATE reballs.
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Originally posted by tecumseh tecumseh wrote:

stock halo b's and reloader b's HATE reballs.

well they shot perfectly fine when the reloader was on the shocker.

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Originally posted by tecumseh tecumseh wrote:

stock halo b's and reloader b's HATE reballs.

Yeah my halo just wont feed them, and when it does I get like 4 balls in and then it jams.

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My guess is that the density and mass of the re-balls are pushing them past your detents (especially since you are using a force-feed hopper system). The better the technology gets with paintball markers, the finer the tolerances. For example, back in the day, most markers were built like AK47's from an engineering standpoint. In other words, they were built with (relative to today's high-ends) a lot of "slop" between parts. My guess is that the guys who came up with the PMR design decided to make it so the detents only loosely hold a paintball (giving it less chance to break in the chamber) and the re-balls are just too heavy a mass and push right through them, especially under tension from the hopper.
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