Autococker + CO2?

http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=164 210&PN=2

CO2 will work fine on it, especially if it's mech.

$400 98custom wrote: CO2 + autococker = bad (usually) its better for the gun to go with air

Someone hasn't been reading all previous posts, including the post with a link to another thread.

http://www.armyoforr.com/faq.html#faq13

 

FAQ Tech Section:

Can I use CO2 to power my autococker?
When properly filled, a CO2 tanks contents are about 68% liquid, which means that with a bottom-line setup even if the marker is level, liquid CO2 will still flow into the marker causing it to freeze and the velocity to spike up and down. CO2 is generally not as clean as compressed air or nitrogen so it can put more wear and tear on some of the markers parts, especially in the inline regulator and the cup seal. The worst that can happen as a result of CO2 use is that the cup seal could develop a leak or the inline regulator may begin to leak or spike. Any problems that may develop as a result of CO2 usage are usually relatively easy fixes. The bottom line is that in most cases CO2 will get the job done, but if you want to tweak the most performance possible out of your Cocker® Marker then Compressed air is defiantly the way to go.

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Yes, you can run C02 on a cocker, ive done it myself, but i would highly recommend some form of x-chamber or (my personal solution) an anti-siphon tube (its been so long i dont even know if they still make those)

The ONLY way to run CO2 on post '99 autococker is to run an anti-siphon CO2 tank on the marker itself. The risk of sucking liquid CO2 into the maker even using a remote line or an x-chamber isn't something that you really want to do as it can cause some rather frustrating issues with the operation of the marker. ANY liquid CO2 that makes it past the Inline and LP regs will cause you to blow your LP lines going to the ram and the 3-way, not to mention that the cold effects of expanded co2 often wreak havoc on the operation of the 3-way due to the expansion of the o-rings around the stem. The performance of a late-model autococker is severely degraded by using CO2. That said, yes, you can run it on CO2, but it isn't suggested if you are trying to use a late-model 'cocker as the high-performance marker that it is. Possible, but not advisable.

My experience: I used to run my mech '04 Vert on CO2, unantisiphoned. Never had any problems. Of course, you do need a reg that will be abe to handle the CO2, and from my experience, the stock WGP regs to a pretty good job of that. No trouble on my end like freezes or bursts of microline. The reg did get pretty cold though...

As for $400, I don't need to do a thing. He's entirely self-pwning.

Edit: I do gotta say, he's kept his cool. More than I can say for a lot of people. Props for that.

Edited by DeTrevni - 14 February 2007 at 11:17pm

48ci 3kpsi is going to get you oh, about a hopper and a half before having to re-fill using a stock 'cocker.

tallen702 wrote: The ONLY way to run CO2 on post '99 autococker is to run an anti-siphon CO2 tank on the marker itself. The risk of sucking liquid CO2 into the maker even using a remote line or an x-chamber isn't something that you really want to do as it can cause some rather frustrating issues with the operation of the marker. ANY liquid CO2 that makes it past the Inline and LP regs will cause you to blow your LP lines going to the ram and the 3-way, not to mention that the cold effects of expanded co2 often wreak havoc on the operation of the 3-way due to the expansion of the o-rings around the stem. The performance of a late-model autococker is severely degraded by using CO2. That said, yes, you can run it on CO2, but it isn't suggested if you are trying to use a late-model 'cocker as the high-performance marker that it is. Possible, but not advisable.

The man knows what he's talking about.  Seen cockers rock on Co2. But it was an anti-siphon tank through a regulator capable of using Co2. Got to keep the liquid out...