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    Posted: 14 November 2007 at 3:34pm

Hey guys, I was just wondering of anyone had any ideas tor upgrades to my marker to make it better for a marksman role

A5, Q-loader, HPA, UMS tactical sight riser,Crossbow red dot sight (3 dots for different ranges) Thinking about J& J ceramic or LAPCO bigshot (lengths and sound etc would be nice) spec ops A5A2 commando stock w/ groove cut out for facemask

Also, I was wondering if anyone has ever used the UMS 98c flatline, and if it is worthwhile for the range?

PS please do not flame me if I accidentally use the forbidden Sn*per word



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First off, forget about the red dot. It's not going to help.

I would recommend the JJ Ceramic if you're looking for accuracy. If you want range, look into the Apex. If you want to combine both, buy a JJ, Apex tip, and adapter. The dogleg stock is up to you. You're not going to pick people off from a distance.
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For the most part I agree.  The J&J is accurate and much quieter than the bigshot (hence the name bigshot)  The stock can be nice if you like to stabilize yourself with it like I do.  The red dot can be useless or it can be useful.  Red dots can give tunnel vision so you have to be careful about that but if you dial it in (by raising/ lowering the front of the site) to about 75 feet you should be able to get off some pretty good accuracy with it.
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Originally posted by AZSniper101 AZSniper101 wrote:

PS please do not flame me if I accidentally use the forbidden Sn*per word


I will, violently. There is nothing that even closely resembles a sniper in paintball, and by calling yourself one, you do all the military snipers that sacrificed for their country dishonor.
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Snake. calm down. Ther is no need to take offense to the term. the term "sniper" in paintball can simply mean ambush.  No one is trying to put down anyone in the military.

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Originally posted by thejudge thejudge wrote:

Snake. calm down. Ther is no need to take offense to the term. the term "sniper" in paintball can simply mean ambush.  No one is trying to put down anyone in the military.


Then why don't they say "ambush?"
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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by thejudge thejudge wrote:

Snake. calm down. Ther is no need to take offense to the term. the term "sniper" in paintball can simply mean ambush.  No one is trying to put down anyone in the military.


Then why don't they say "ambush?"

Because they are implying they can be something they are not. If there was something that resembled a sniper, maybe it wouldn't be so offensive. Even implying that a sniper is anything close to a ambusher is doing great dishonor on those like OS who did the real thing...
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Its really not considering no one sat down thinking that they just wanted to make someone mad.  I will be the first to admit that a sniper in war is nothing like a "sniper" in paintball.  That is obvious.  If anyone takes offense to the term I will personally apologize right now for it.  Snake no one is trying to make you mad.  so from now on lets just call it ambush and there will be no problems.
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No, let's call them "campers," because that is all they can be. They don't have a range advantage, they don't have an accuracy advantage, all they do is get all dressed up in a camoflauge dress and camp in the bushes. When their "well-earned prey" walks by, they proceed to freak out and shoot willy nilly and think about how awesome they're going to sound on the spec ops forum when they get home from their day of being complete military wannabe idiots. 

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Oh boy, come on guys, how many "sniper-debates" have we had in the past month. I don't really want to go searching through all the old posts to just copy and paste everything into this one. Instead, try to help the kid figure out what it is he wants out of his marker. It's one thing to go after the spec-ops trolls that tend to pop up every once in a while, but our AZSniper101 even edited the post to "marksman" which, as we've said in the past, is enough of a neutral ground to stand on.

As for the question at hand. If you're looking to get the greatest accuracy out of your marker, then paint-to-bore match is key. Thus, investing in a barrel kit with various-sized inserts or backs is advantageous. However, kits can be very expensive and a lot of players have found that there are about 3 really good all-around barrels out there that give increased accuracy without breaking the bank.

Those 3 barrels would be the J&J Ceramic series, the LAPCO Bigshot, and the CP 1-Piece.

The J&J is rather nice due to the fact that it is a machined aircraft aluminum barrel that is lined with teflon impregnated ceramic. Some people will try to tell you that they "chip" easily or that they "shatter." neither of those statements are true in the slightest. I've owned J&J ceramics since I had my first pro-lite and they've never even been damaged through all the years of play. They usually run between 12"-14" (which is the ideal combination of muffling effect and efficiency) and are rather quiet. The teflon also not only decreases drag, but also allows the user to "shoot clean" any breaks in the barrel (about 8 shots after a break you regain 90% accuracy) which is great for those tight situations where you don't have time to squeegee your barrel out. J&J's tend to run a medium to small bore size.

The lapco big-shot is another fine barrel that runs slightly larger in bore diameter and is machined from pure bar-stock aluminum for the finest quality with the highest possible polish to the interior. If you look down my LAPCO barrels, even after 10 years of heavy use, they all have a mirror finish to this day. The slightly larger bore size gives you more choice in paint. However, they tend to be a bit louder as they do not use successive porting but rather use a "muzzle break" style ring just behind the tip. It's still quieter than a stock barrel, and far more accurate.

Finally, CP's barrels are machined by LAPCO for them. So you're still getting lapco quality but with a linear successive porting design giving a little more stealth. I do believe they are limited to 12" in length though.

As far as increased distance, only the APEX and Flatline barrels will increase distance with the spin they introduce to the ball in flight. Their accuracy at range as well as the lack of kinetic energy at the end of their trajectories leave something to be desired. i.e. you get more range, but most of the balls at that extended range have so little energy left that they don't break on target reliably.

As for HPA, I always encourage players to make that step. As for stocks. I can't stand them. I suggest playing with one on a friend's marker or a loaner before actually buying one as you might be wasting your money.
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Would you reccomend the J&J EDGE All Star barrel kit?
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I reccomend the All Star or the Elite.  I like elite (3 front lengths) because of different styles of play but the all star is nice so that you can have 2 front lengths.  I would reccomend going straight through J&J's site though just because of cost.  Shop around and you should find some good prices.

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I was wondering, if I am not running al LPK, then is it really necessary to have a regulator, also, do all HPA tanks come with a reg, even if they are the really cheap ones (as HPA goes)  Also, I will end up saving around $42 by going with the all star kit.  Should I take the money that I saved and use it to buy a better tank ($64).  If so, can you give me a few reccomendations, or are they all pretty much the same?

Thanks for all your help so far, it has been really great  (more so than on any other forum I have tried)

Also, has ayone here tried the warsensor hop up barrel for the A5 and could they give me their opinions



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I have decided to go with the J&J EDGE ELite barrel.  What tip lengths should I get (12, 14, 16) or (10, 12, 14)
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depends on what you want it for.  I will be getting an 8 to add to my 10,12, and 14 collection just beacuse of certain kinds of play.  If you are just going to do normal play I would reccomend the 10,12,14 just because those are pretty common lengths.  If you will be playing in buildings then an 8 will be nice for clearance.

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Good lord, people...  This rookie clearly did his homework before posting, so leave him alone.

A quick thought or sights - the red-dots are worth trying.  Many people find them useless, but others swear by them for quick target aquisition.  You have to try for yourself, but they take a bit of practice to get used to, so don't jump to any conclusions.

If you do go with a red-dot, it may be worth spending some bucks on a nicer one.  You certainly want a powered one, and the brigther the dot the better.  Larger size can help limit tunnel-vision.

But mostly it is preference.

Also, if you like shooting at a distance while patiently waiting, a scope may be useful.  That's right, I said it - scope. Not for aiming - they are useless for that.  But for target location and identification.  I play with a scope occasionally, and that significantly cuts down on the number of times I shoot at treestumps.  In the woods it can be hard to see what is what, and a scope can help with that.

But for both sights and scopes, you will have the problem of cleaning them when they getshot.  I recommend clear covers that you can remove and clean, but that you keep on while playing.  The covers will reduce the performance of your sight/scope a little, but will keep them functional after a hit.

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