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    Posted: 22 November 2007 at 1:21pm
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frankly, the cop wasn't wrong...he gave the guy an order and the guy ignored it...that's generally a bad idea.

and for anyone who says "oh he just wanted to know what was going on", he was given an order...and there have been cases in the past where people distract the cop so the passenger or someone does something.
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He wasnt tazed for not signing the ticket.

The guy wasn't following a lawful order, and was headed back to his vehicle. The cop tazed because there was more then one person present so it was for his safety.


Anyone who see's any differently doesn't know what happens when a cop doesn't control the situation.




Originally posted by front page front page wrote:

I am pretty sure cops still have to read our rights which he also refuses to do.


Wow, another case of a street lawyer.

Cops ONLY have to read the rights if they intend to question you. They DO NOT if they are arresting you for a crime they see committed.


Edited by Linus - 22 November 2007 at 1:30pm

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This guy was clearly a threat and needed to be stopped. I mean look at him, walking back to his car.

You could tell he was just about to flip out and kill everyone in sight.

It is a good thing the cop just immediately relied on the new toy instead of actually doing police work.




Edited by Man Bites Dog - 22 November 2007 at 2:42pm
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MBD, you are missing the fact that the man could be able to use telekinesis's and kill the police.
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Originally posted by Man Bites Dog Man Bites Dog wrote:

This guy was clearly a threat and needed to be stopped. I mean look at him, walking back to his car. You could tell he was just about to flip out and kill everyone in sight. It is a good thing the cop just immediately relied on the new toy instead of actually doing police work. Oink.


Yeah because signing the Ticket isnt an admission of Guilt. It's just means that you got the ticket. Here is another example of somebody who could had avoided a world of pain had he just complied.

But I forgot how much experience Whale has in road side stops. I am sure that as a journalist you can easily look up how many cops are killed in routine traffic stops.

Not on to the matter at hand. This does seem exesive since the guy was just walking away. I'd would had just grabbed him and held him even remind him that his actions could had lead to his arrest. His demeanor wasnt that of the Don't Taze me Bro idiot nor it was of the spaz foreigner in the busy airport in the post 911 world.

Obviously not enough People havent seen "How not to get your ass whooped by the Police" from the Chris Rock Show.
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Originally posted by Evil Elvis Evil Elvis wrote:

This does seem exesive since the guy was just walking away.


That was my general point, I am glad you got to it after the personal stuff.


Anyway, if the driver didn't sign the ticket, what was the worst that could have happened? It is still in the system, right?
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MBD.. because NOT signing it is an ARRESTABLE CRIME?

EE... LTL is preferred over going hands on in ALL circumstances. No point in an officer getting within arms reach of a person when they have a 21' reach with the tazer.

The guy was walking back and the officer thought he was going to try to drive away.

Edited by Linus - 22 November 2007 at 2:48pm

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:



EE... LTL is preferred over going hands on in ALL circumstances. No point in an officer getting within arms reach of a person when they have a 21' reach with the tazer.


another good point. why get close enough to someone when you dont know what they could have on them? he was just walking away, yea but you never know what someone is capable of.
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Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:



EE... LTL is preferred over going hands on in ALL circumstances. No point in an officer getting within arms reach of a person when they have a 21' reach with the tazer.


another good point. why get close enough to someone when you dont know what they could have on them? he was just walking away, yea but you never know what someone is capable of.

Like activating a nuke by whistling into a pay phone?
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

MBD.. because NOT signing it is an ARRESTABLE CRIME?



After talking to a police officer about this, he said that not signing is indeed an ARRESTABLE (sic) CRIME, however, to actually arrest someone for it is typically only done by asshole officers. Usually, in his words, if someone wants to not sign it, he just writes "refused to sign" on the ticket and processes it as normal.
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True, which is where the whole "Police Discretion" debate comes.

If someone was being respectful to me and refused to sign, that's one thing.

But if someone is being disrespectful to me and not complying to any of my orders, then I will do whatever I'm legally allowed to.


That's what many cops do.

Edited by Linus - 22 November 2007 at 3:16pm

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:



That's what many cops do.



Which just might be the reason most people dislike/distrust cops.


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Then maybe people shouldn't be assholes when THEy are the ones breaking the law?

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Then maybe people shouldn't be assholes when THEy are the ones breaking the law?


I agree, but being an asshole is not reason enough to get tasered when it was quite obvious it could have all been avoided.
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No, but disobeying a lawful and direct order, and there-by making the officer think you plan on doing something that is dangerous and very illegal IS reason enough to be tazed.

Edited by Linus - 22 November 2007 at 3:27pm

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

there-by making the officer think you plan on doing something that is dangerous and very illegal IS reason enough to be tazed.



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Originally posted by Man Bites Dog Man Bites Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

there-by making the officer think you plan on doing something that is dangerous and very illegal IS reason enough to be tazed.
...sigh...


SO a person not listening to you and going to get back in his car isn't dangerous?

Ok.......



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