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    Posted: 03 January 2008 at 1:37pm
whats happenin' guys?

I'm fresh the the sport and just picked up a 98C with A.C.T and RT. I've been wanting to get into this for awhile now so I'm pretty stoked. Should be in the mail in a few days and I'll be good to go. Look forward to picking up some knowledge around here. 
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Welcome to the addiction.... errr... I mean game! Yeah, game!



Anyway, sounds like you picked up a nice starter marker. The R/T provides great fire-power and the ACT means that you won't have to worry about chopping rounds.

I highly suggest looking into a new barrel as your first upgrade as the stock barrel is pretty crappy. After that, I suggest looking at a motorized hopper (you can go low-to-mid range on the hopper, I suggest a 12v ReVLution or Empire Reloader-II) as it will help keep the feed rate of the rounds in sync with the firing rate of your marker.

As always, feel free to ask any questions you may have. We do suggest, however, that you take a moment to search the "stickies" and use the "search" function on the forum before asking something that may appear to be a routine question as it will help you find your answer more quickly.

Again, welcome to the forum and the great sport/game of paintball! Prepare to kiss your checking account goodbye
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Ugh. My wallet hurts. Good luck with that...
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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Ugh. My wallet hurts. Good luck with that...


Ditto . . . all the time . . . even more significantly within the next week.
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Hey dude. Welcome to the sport. Youre going to enjoy yourself. This forum is a great place for knowledge, so you came to the right spot. I strongly agree with Tallen about the barrel, I recommend a 12" J&J Ceramic. Great barrel, light, cleans itself, and not that expensive. BTW, 21" barrels do not make you shoot farther of better, despite what I know some kids will tell you. If you have any questions, just ask.
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haha, I feel the bug bitin' already. Thanks for the info and the welcome, I've been hangin out in the stickies for a lil while so thanks for that information. Counting down the days till the marker comes in. 
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Sounds like you picked out a good set-up, but one thing you definatly need is a good, comfortable mask.  If you don't like the one that  comes with the marker, then I strongly suggest you go to a local shop and try a few on til you find one thats right.  You'll thank me when you on the field and your mask isn't sliding around.  Other than that, have fun. 
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Welcome to the forum. You picked a great gun to start with. Play stock for awhile and get a feel for what you need.

A new barrel is a must though. I always recommend a 12-14" JJ Ceramic. Lapco Bigshots and Custom Products 1-pieces are also very nice barrels for the price.

I agree with Tallen that you'll want a new hopper to keep up with your ROF. If you plan to stick with your 98, the cyclone is a a great addition.
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Since I mentioned the pain in the wallet bit. I've got 18min left on my Sandridge F5 Tiny Tornado auction.... Right now I'm sitting with a high bid of $103.01 for a marker that has no tech support, looks like medusa's head is sticking out the front block, and is generally an ugly beast.... but I've always wanted one!!! Besides.... It's a freaking F-5! They're like the silver medal to DeTrevni's Osiris Gold Medal win in the 'cocker world.
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The first thing you will definately need is a good mask.

Spring for for a good mask now, it is the most important thing you can do.

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A few recommendations for masks:
- JT Flex 7/Flex 8/Proflex (all use the same lens and are essentially the same, or at least very similar). I use the Flex 7, and usually forget I'm wearing it .
- VForce Profiler (IMO not quite as comfortable as the JTs, but certainly not uncomfortable. Smaller target to shoot at). With this mask, I find it to be comfortable, but I'm more aware of it. Probably because its more compact, so you notice the material more. But I'm sure others have different opinions.

Every person has different needs for a mask. Try a few, until you find one that you like. Thermal lenses are a good call, they really help with fog. Though they aren't the only solution (I was amazed to find that the Profiler doesn't use a thermal lens, but they certainly don't fog easily). Those masks above are just a good starting point. But don't go cheap on your mask. Get the one you want to get, as the $40 difference between garbage and the good mask will seem like nothing if you go with the cheap one you didn't really want, and it's fogging and moving around on the field. Don't go for the most expensive one either though (unless you like it, then by all means).

Welcome to paintball! You'll be stuck for a while. I hope you haven't made any long-term financial commitments in the last little while .
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for mask i personally think the vforce is more comfortable.  the lens  is also easier to care for and switch out.
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I'll agree about the lens thing. JT Lenses are a pain to remove, especially when compared to others. But VForce don't have thermals (that I've seen). While I know they're still very effective in their anti-fog, that still surprises me.
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they have thermals.  they are just one piece thermals.  mine has actually worked much better than my JT thermals did.  They are just a lil more expensive but I guess its worth it for the improvements.
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Originally posted by thejudge thejudge wrote:

they have thermals. they are just one piece thermals. mine has actually worked much better than my JT thermals did. They are just a lil more expensive but I guess its worth it for the improvements.


Nope, not thermal. V-Force uses a baked on anti-fog coating. Thermal lenses by definition are two pieces that contain a dead-air space with a semi-permeable membrane in between. The dead air space acts as an insulator to keep the cold air outside from causing the warm, moist air inside from condensing on the lens.
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I have a v-force profiler and Im very happy with it.  It fits great and its pretty easy to change the lenses on.  Also the anti-fog crap on there (whatever it is) seems to work well, I don't know how long it'll last but eh whatever.   
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If only there was a mask sticky..
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Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

If only there was a mask sticky..


Hey, you should write one . . . and have it stickied at the top of the new player section.

You could call it something cool like "Which mask is right for you."

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ok I realize that most of you have 98 or a5's .  I have a mr2 pretty much stock. went with a agated hopper 18 bps  come with a 12" barrel shooting Demon or stryker balls. any sugestions on mods or a better ball choice for woodsball.  Just picked up a remote air line to help with the weight issue.
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if thats a stock barrel, get a new one. barrel length isn't that important, it's all preference. However, don't go over 16" (some say 14", myself included). An 8" barrel is all that is necessary. Everything after that is personal preference. A good quality barrel will be good in any length. Most around here (again, myself included) will recommend a JJ Ceramic or Lapco Bigshot.
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