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    Posted: 27 January 2008 at 1:54pm
Hey guys,

So I ordered a tippmann A-5 w/a G36 fixed stock.

I am looking at some potential upgrades to get for the marker.

I have a friend that has a JJ ceramic which he is not using and is willing to sell it to me for half the market price(the barrell is in perfect condition). -- should i get that instead of getting an opsgear smg barrel or lapco big shot?

Also, I already have a CPreg with a high pressure piston  0-500PSI output. I was told that this will probably not work unless I have the LPK. (what problems may I run into while using CP reg without the LPK?)

Since i am not a quick/heavy shooter, i like to pick my shots... should I be making changes to the internals of the cyclone and the marker itself? -- would I have to make changes if I get the LPK?

PLease let me know.

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The J&J is a good deal to go for.  its a great barrel and if its in great condition it sounds like its a deal you shouldnt pass on.  the A5 needs a higher pressure to cock back than 500psi.  thats why you have to get high pressure tanks.  I have never had a problem with mine and personally dont think the LPK makes much of a difference.  As for the cyclone I maxed mine at 11bps w/ the egrip (I set it to that) and I havent replaced anything in the cyclone.  You could change it to the vortex to be on the safe side since ratchets can break but I have the stock plastice older ratchet and I havent had any problems with it in about 3-4 years.  I play year round and my gun has had counless balls through it so I dont know how people break their ratchets so easily honsetly.
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The judge is right, the J&J sounds like a good deal.

The A5 internals should work fine.  I never had a ratchet problem as well and my A5 was number 372 off of the assembly line.  I finally replaced the ratchet with the newer plastic one last year but only because it was free and I had the Cyclone apart for cleaning anyway.  Many of the "upgrades" you see advertised (such as after-market power tubes and bolts) provide no noticeable improvement anyway.

LPK is a kit that replaces many of the internals with new parts.  You will find that the forum members have varying opinions of the benefits of going low pressure.  Personally, I see no use for LPK on a woodsball Tippmann.

Just because you like to pick your shots doesn't mean that you won't eventually get in a situation where the ability to rip of a heavy volume of fire would be nice.  I would consider some type of firepower upgrade as a possibility because of that.  (Especially if you normally work alone on the field.)

You didn't say what kind of tank you have.  On the off chance that you are using CO2, an expansion chamber is always a good upgrade.

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Thanks for the info guys.

I am not sure if i want to get LPK just because its so damn pricy.

Maybe ill just slap on my old useless PMI inline regulator :P.

in regards to tanks, I use the most basic PMI HPA tank, I also use a remote with that . So i think an expansion chamber wont be necessary.

In terms of high volume of fire, what sort of  upgrades are you speaking of?

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a good upgrade is the egrip.  I have the WAS in mine and I maxed it at 11 bps in rebound and full auto modes.  it isnt as hard as people make it seem like it is if you just sit down with the directions.  It allows me to go single shot or pump up the paint volume.  Alot of people like the RT too.  I am not as big of a fan of it personally but thats just me so I wont say anything about it.  I would rather you hear the pros of it from someone with more experience with the RT.
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You really don't need a reg at all, the A5 (or any tippmann for that matter) will work just fine without a reg. It won't hurt though, and if it's a good reg then you will see benefits. But the marker will shoot fine without it.  I like the RT myself, no batteries and you can get them to a very respectable rate of fire (I can get my brother's RT' d 98 up to about 15 BPS with no mods to the RT system). E-grips are good too though, it's all preference.
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Ahh trigger changes..

Do you guys think changes to the cyclone feeder will be useful?
 if so in what way?

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like I said before if you arent looking to go super fast with the bps then you dont have to worry bout it.
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Ya that makes sense.

Dont wanna spend too much money.

Out of curiosity. Would i need a offset for my red dot if i have the G36 stock?

(i didnt get my a-5 yet)


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not so much for the stok but for the hopper yes.  I actually recomend getting an X7 hopper for the A5.  its lower profile and offset plus it looks better IMO.  They are only about 7-8 bucks too which is cheaper than buying an offset rail.
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What do you think of the attack hopper.

the lid thing :P

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You don't need offset's for sights for any reason other than comfort. If you can sight down it without the hopper on no problem, then don't bother. Offset's just make zero-ing the sight more difficult. Because red-dot sights are zero-magnification, you can use them with both eyes open. Therefore, as long as you can see the dot, it doesn't matter if you can see what is behind it in that eye. The image from your other eye is superimposed by your brain (this is a reason why we don't have a inch wide blind spot directly ahead of us), and you will see the dot hovering over your target even though the hopper is blocking one eye. It's actually kind of cool to see.
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As I said dont get the ofset sight, just a different hopper.  On my A5 at least my old red dot couldnt be centered in with the stock hopper.  Go X7 hopper.
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Thanks for the reply guys!

Ill be either getting the smaller attack hopper or the X7 hopper.

have yet to test if the CP reg works without the LPK.. though i doubt it will...

do you guys think.. getting a lighter bolt will help it cock back?
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Consider the R5 hopper as well.
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By attack hopper do you mean the tac cap that only holds 50 rounds?  If you get that you have to get the special pods that only hold 50 rounds and those are more expensive since demand is low for them.  As for the R5 I personally am not as big of a fan it seems a little bulky still for what it is IMO.
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HAha yea that is what i mean :P.

I like how the tac cap is
i dont really need the pods. I just still feel the x7 hopper is still a tad big.

But i do wanna see it in person, both :P to see what i like.


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take the A5 with you so you can see them on the marker... they all look bigger before you put them on.  The tac cap is cool looking but if you put down any kind of fire then you will need more than 50 rounds lol.
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I am living proof that 50 rounds is all ya need. Though I use a normal hopper, I carry 50 rd pods 90% of the time. It forces you to reload when you can, instead of when you need to, so paradoxically you don't need to reload in a firefight as often because you are more aware of how much paint you have. At least it works that way for me. That being said, I usually have at least one 100rd (ideally 2 140s) on a teammate just in case I need to load during a fight and I can get close enough to grab it.

The tac cap is a good idea I think, just make sure you have your full size hopper at the field too. It wouldn't be too bad an idea to get the tac cap and the x7 hopper, then you can have either one depending on the needs of the particular game. Or just get the tac cap, and use the regular hopper when you need more paint. Think about it, when you need more paint, it will be because your in more firefights, so your red dot isn't going to be as useful in those moments.
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I guess it also depends where you play and how many people are there.  Some of the events I have been to are rather large and when everyone is concentrated to a certain area for the objective it tends to get crazy with the paint flying.
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