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    Posted: 05 February 2008 at 3:52pm
I attempted to approach my Mom with this question, but in the end she just teared up and walked off.

Mark 3:29:

"But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."

This means that I, as an Atheist, am going to "Hell", no matter what.  Even if I attempt to become a "born again Christian", I am still going to Hell.  There is no forgiveness for me.

Being as God is omnipotent, he knew I was going to become an Atheist, yet he still put me in my Mother's womb.  He put me there knowing that at the end of my life, I would go to the worst place imaginable.  How does that even make one iota of sense?
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"It's your fault not God's" is the answer you're going to get.

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Because God works in mysterious ways...
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Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Because God works in mysterious ways...
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I don't know if temporarily being an atheist would count as "blaspheming against the Holy Spirit". But I'm also not sure what exactly would. E-mail a priest or something 
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If God is truly omniscient then there is no free will, and the whole system falls apart away.
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" god hates us all". Hate him back, it works for me.
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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Because God works in mysterious ways...
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Originally posted by Susan Storm Susan Storm wrote:

If God is truly omniscient then there is no free will, and the whole system falls apart away.


Omniscient is just all knowing.  He could easily allow his creations to do as they will without actually making a "plan" for them.  Knowledge of something does not equal guiding that thing.
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Omnipotence makes free will even less possible.
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The bible was written by people is all I'm saying. I'm a man of faith, religion however, in my opinion, is something compleatly different.
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Free will depends on randomness. If there is randomness, then omniscience is impossible.
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Originally posted by Susan Storm Susan Storm wrote:

If God is truly omniscient then there is no free will, and the whole system falls apart away.
Damn you for getting here first!
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Originally posted by X-51 X-51 wrote:

The bible was written by people is all I'm saying. I'm a man of faith, religion however, in my opinion, is something compleatly different.

Agreed.  I don't like much of what the Church teaches, and don't agree with most of it.  I think if in your heart you regret the wrong things you did and have lived a fairly just and moral life, you're going to heaven, no matter what faith you are.

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The bible isn't meant to be taken so literally. 
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Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

Originally posted by Susan Storm Susan Storm wrote:

If God is truly omniscient then there is no free will, and the whole system falls apart away.
Damn you for getting here first!
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No, god did not send you to Earth to just be damned. You have your own free will, you chose to reject god, he didnt make you, you did it on your own.

Look up the difference between perfect will, and sovereign will.
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Originally posted by karll karll wrote:

The bible isn't meant to be taken so literally. 
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Originally posted by ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote:

Originally posted by karll karll wrote:

The bible isn't meant to be taken so literally. 

Millions of fundies disagree.

And if you don't take it literally, how can you base any decision on anything written in the Bible?  Once you start believing some parts and not others, you might as well just make up your own religion instead.
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Originally posted by X-51 X-51 wrote:

The bible was written by people is all I'm saying. I'm a man of faith, religion however, in my opinion, is something compleatly different.


"To say the Bible was written by men and may contain inaccuracies completely contradicts the word of the Bible."
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