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Cyclone not working!!!!

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    Posted: 19 April 2009 at 8:01pm
I recently bought all the tech t upgrades and now my cyclone isnt working.  I greased all the parts up more than enough. It still isnt working. It looks like not enough air is getting to the cyclone itself so its not turning the paddles, it just kind of shakes them really fast. The power bolt(JCS Red Hot) is tilts a little also but i cant get it to stay stationary and ive tightened the screws down as much as I could get them. But i dont know if that has anything to do with it. PLEASE HELP!!! Thanks.
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was there a problem with your cyclone before getting the TechT upgrades?  Maybe stock isn't so bad.  I usually try not to get an upgrade unless I am having problems with the stock part first.
 
If you bought the entire cyclone upgrade (paddles, lightening rod, vortex, qeph) I would suggest doing a design of experiments to see what is the failing piece to the puzzle.  In other words, try each piece one at a time and see if any have a problem.  Once that is done, try combining the parts together in pairs.  You will eventually find the part that is causing the issues.
 
If it were me, I would take the QEPH off first.  I have heard quite a bit of issues with that.
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Take the JCS powertube out and see if you still have issues. Stock Tippmann internals seem to work best.  Also make sure you haven't over tightened anything. Whenever upgrading a marker it is good to add an item, test. Add another item, test. Making sure each upgrade works properly before adding another will help simplify troubleshooting.

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Ive taken out and replaced the internals and changed them one by one and im still getting the same result. The cyclone still isnt working.
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Ok, can you manually advance it by pressing the button in, feel a click and see it spin? If not then the little metal arm isn't properly positioned.
 
Also, check to be sure that the piston has a good o-ring on it. People forget that one is there and without it the air won't act right either.
 
last thought, check the main arm that you screw the paddles onto, be sure it isn't completely round. It should be flat on one side and from the top look like a "D" almost. If it is rounded off then it will skip. 
 
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Ya my Cyclone on my x7 is messed like this too, I have to manually put spin it to put a ball into my barrel. Even with C02 it doesnt spin, All my parts ARE Stock.
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Take off the qeph... when I "upgraded" that part it ruined my cyclone.
 
Took it back off and it was fine.
 
The only techt upgrade I now have is the lighting rod. And my cyclone is not very consistant. I have to manually load it at times... I need to take it apart and mess with it, but lately, I've just been grabbing my backup a-5...
 
Typically the cause is too much grease in the part that ratchets the loader. you want that spring and the little rubber ratchet to clean and almost no grease.
 
And don't "overtighten" anything, as almost everything goes into plastic and can strip out...
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I didnt upgrade though, I never have. I plan on it soon tho so what else could the problem be?
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