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    Posted: 08 July 2009 at 8:41pm
My dad just handed me a steel bullet that he found near his house when he was a kid.  It measures approximately 1.75" long and is .424" diameter.  It is made entirely of steel.  Anyone have any ideas what it could be from?

Bullet in question is to the left of a 7.62x54



Edited by Eville - 08 July 2009 at 9:02pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote merc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2009 at 8:45pm
take a picture,

is it just a bullet or is it a cartridge?

are you sure its steel and not lead? (red rust vs white oxidation, magnet test)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eville Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2009 at 9:01pm
picture added to OP.  It is most certainly steel.  Sticks to a magnet very strongly and is even slightly magnetic its self.  
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You should definitely make it a necklace, that'd be rad.
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after some research, turns out there are a ton of old rifle rounds in 10.75mm from way back in the day. Berdan rifles, for example, were 10.75x58mm and were used by the Russians and the US military until replaced by the Mosin Nagant and Krag-Jorgensen rifles respectively. Mausers were also made in 10.75 at one point and calibers ranging from 10.75x42mm to 10.75x75mm exist in historical firearms. As to the availability and composition of the ammunition for these various calibers, I can't attest. However, it seems likely that it came from such a weapon.



Edited by tallen702 - 08 July 2009 at 11:52pm
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yep, took the diameter measurement with a micrometer and my dad got the same thing when he did it.  there arent any barrel markings on it, is it possible that it is the core from inside a larger bullets jacket?
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Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

You should definitely make it a necklace, that'd be rad.
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see my above edit.

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after some research, turns out there are a ton of old rifle rounds in 10.75mm from way back in the day. Berdan rifles, for example, were 10.75x58mm and were used by the Russians and the US military until replaced by the Mosin Nagant and Krag-Jorgensen rifles respectively. Mausers were also made in 10.75 at one point and calibers ranging from 10.75x42mm to 10.75x75mm exist in historical firearms. As to the availability and composition of the ammunition for these various calibers, I can't attest. However, it seems likely that it came from such a weapon.
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That's a hell of a round. I thought 7.62x54r where big. 10.75x58?? Jesus...

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It could  an old anti tank rifle bullet.  They are usually around 12-13 mm in diameter.
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Originally posted by Ceesman762 Ceesman762 wrote:

It could  an old anti tank rifle bullet.  They are usually around 12-13 mm in diameter.
That's what I originally thought, but .424 = 10.75mm almost exactly which leads me to believe it's from a late 1800's cartridge firing rifle like the Berdan II.

Note: I don't think it's an original bullet from that time period since it would have been much more "ball" shaped. If anything, it would be a custom load to fire in a 10.75mm mauser or 10.75mm military rifle.

Edited by tallen702 - 09 July 2009 at 1:00pm
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