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Uncle Rudder
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Topic: Motorcycle N00bPosted: 23 September 2009 at 5:25pm |
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I'm finally at the point where I can comfortably afford a motorcycle (and if I sell this damn Eclipse I could justify spending a little more on a bike). The problem is I don't want to spend a lot of money on a flashy bike that can go 250 mph just so it can sit in the garage all winter, and I would like to have a decent chunk of change left over for quality protective gear. Really, I'm just looking for a bike that will make a nice cruiser without breaking down, and a good starter bike (it's been a little more than a year since I last rode a dirtbike). I'm looking for something that is 1) good beginners bike 2) Doesn't need to be super fast, just enough to go, 3) Is reasonably cheap (since it's going to sit in the garage durning the winter months) and 4) Not be totally lame in the looks department.
So I'd love to hear anyone's advice on what bikes to look into, what to avoid, etc etc. ANYTHING!
Currently, I know a guy who is thinking about selling his bike (wants to upgrade to a newer more stylish and more powerful one). The problem is I don't remember the exact year and model, and he's never stated a price - so I get the feeling he wants me to make an offer, which I'm clueless with (going to have to give him a call sometime).
Either way, I DO know it's a late 80's Honda with a 6 speed tranny, 26,XXX miles, speedo, tach, little light that tells you what gear your in, runs amazing, no blemishes or any visible damage, and he spent $500 on a fancy seat cushion for it (very comfy might I add). I'm 75% sure it has a 650 or 600cc engine in it, but I can't seem to find any pictures of any late 80's Honda motorcycles that look like it. My best guess, from what I remember from seeing it and talking with him, is that it's a 1988 Honda VT600C Shadow VLX (it's all metal, no plastic). But could be wrong, but assuming it is, any guesses at a fair price? KBB does motorcycles but there system isn't percise...at all.
Totally open to any suggestions on other bikes to look into as well. Fall is coming in fast so the next few months is when people will be selling for cheap (assuming that the motorcycle market is like that for convertible cars at least).
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Glassjaw
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Posted: 23 September 2009 at 6:57pm |
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Kawasaki ninja 250. They are fantastic starter bikes. Check craigslist, they can be had for around 1300-2500. Oh, and the older models are a little lacking in the aesthetics department, however the 08 model got quite the looks upgrade. Of course, expect to pay more for the 08 model.
For a plethora of info check out: sportbikes.net Edited by Glassjaw - 23 September 2009 at 7:05pm |
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Eville
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Posted: 23 September 2009 at 7:20pm |
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Your friend probably has a Shadow. I would recommend you look for a Honda Nighthawk 750. Plenty fast, good handling, durable as hell, easy to find parts, and cheap. Expect to pay around 1k for one in good condition with low miles. It isn't technically a cruiser if you go by position of the controls, it is a standard which should feel more familiar to a dirt bike rider such as yourself.
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 10:33am |
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Eclipse = Failure as a mechanical creation.
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scotchyscotch
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 11:28am |
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Do you keep in good shape? Eat healthily?
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BearClaw
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 1:16pm |
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A few things you need to consider when getting your first bike.
1. How big or small a person are you. Some small bikes are great to start on but if you cant comfortable fit on the bike it is not gona be an ideal learning bike. 2. What kind of riding do you see yourself doing. Sport bikes are alot of fun to ride but if your main riding is gona be longer trips a sport bikes gona HURT. And cruisers look cool to some and some offer good comfort but are very poor in the corners and dont offer a very good rding position to propperly learn riding techniques. Standards are just that a good mix of a sports cornering but with a bit more of a cruisers comfort. And lastly duel sports offten lack in power AND comfort but allow ya to play in the dirt and stil work quite well on the road. 3. And lastly how mature are ya how old are ya and were abouts do you live (IN canada insurance is hugely dependant on were ya live id imagin it would be the same in the US). How much $$$$ can you justify for the bike, GOOD rideing GEAR (Helmet, Jacket, Gloves, Pants and BOOTS), AND insurance. I been riding for 5 years and three motorcycles LOL. Being a bigger guy (6' 285lbs) with shorter legs(30" inseam) i decided to start on a small bore cruiser a YAMAHA V-STAR 650cc. It had a smaller engine so insurance was nice but the bike itself looked no differant than the much bigger engined bikes and fit my fat ass quite well. The bike worked well for me and worked fine on longer trips. It was not overly powerfull but was still fun and much quicker than most cars. Still after 2 years on that bike i found myself wanting a more sporting ride (wore threw one set of pegs and a pair of boots grinding them in the twisties) without sacraficeing too much comfort and i really wanted to try messing with some dirt stuff too. So i moved on to a SUZUKI V-STROM 650cc. Had alot of fun on this bike, after owning the cruier i learned i had alot of bad habits and really was not trully rding the cruiser to its limits as i had thought. This bike had twice the power was much lighter had WAY WAY more ground clearnce was even more comfy and offered a very LITTLE bit of dirt capability. I liked this bike alot BUT i never could get both feet on the ground with it and it needed suspenshion work to deal with my weight. Also i was finding riding this bike boring as in order to have any fun in the twisties i was WAY above the posted limits so eventually after again 2 years on this bike i decided to go back to a cruiser. Also my insurance company classed the bike as a sport touring bike and thuse the insurance was quite expensive for some one under 25years old (AKA $2000/year). Now i ride a YAMAHA V-STAR 1100cc Silverado (AKA touring model). This bike works for me. Still not sporty (makes the same kinda hp as the suzuki did but twice the tq) but its comfy works AWSOME on longer trips, is by far the most comfy of the bikes i have ridden, fits me perfectly, gets awsome fuel milage. and most importantly its fun to ride as i can actually rid the bike much closer to its limits in the twisties without doubling the posted speed limits. I dont know if id recommed it as a good begginer bike as its a little heavy and if not respected will break the rear tire loose in 1st and some times second (or third and fourth in the dirt ) but if ridden cautiosly it could be handled by a new ride im sure. Insurance is actually cheaper for me too costing only $1550/year. Not as chap as my first bike but $500/year cheaper than my sport touring bike i had.My First bike ![]() My second bike ![]() And my current bike .Can actually see my first bike in this pic too as its still in the family (gave it to my mother as a gift)and this pic was taken on a family bike trip. ![]() Edited by BearClaw - 24 September 2009 at 1:23pm |
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Uncle Rudder
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 5:35pm |
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Thank you, and the others, for the help. It's much appreciated. Keep it coming!
Those are some very nice looking bikes you have there.
...and...
TR00F! It really is a perfect example of what Jeremy Clarkson refers to as; "a cow in racing overalls."
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 5:48pm |
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I'm certainly not the pinnical of muscular fitness. However, I am not in the slighest bit fat. I used to run and lift on a daily basis, but that has all but completely stopped as of recent. Just haven't had the time.
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Posted: 25 September 2009 at 12:25am |
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lol, rudder and me are abut the same build.
right now im lookin at a 2003 yamaha R6. i can pick em up for cheap up here. Edited by ammolord - 25 September 2009 at 12:25am |
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 11:46am |
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Good stuff. In that case I got dibs on your organs. |
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 11:56am |
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My dad sold his V-Star and bought an 06 Honda VTX...I'm pretty impressed with it.
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 2:48pm |
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Sounds like your riding apparel budget is pretty good but i would recommend at least getting the helmet NEW as if you crash or drop a helmet from exsessive height it is scrap. And from experiance i know my helmet i crashed it and landed face first looks perfectly fine (was a mud landing) BUT the foam cushion is a one shot deal once its compress its scrap.
AS for a good bike in your price range that meet your requierments that would both offer a good learning bike and one you would not bore easily of. Offers awsome reliabilty and their are THOUSANDS of em out their. Id look at either a Kawasaki 500 Ninja or a Suzuki GS500. |
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Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:09am |
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All good points. One thing I'd add is to factor in the cost of a MSF [Motorcycle Safety Foundation] Course. At MSF you'll learn basic operation of the motorcycle at low speeds. This consists of a 2-3 day classroom/obstacle course session which, if you pass, you'll earn your endorsement. I strongly encourage this to new riders as you learn basic skills necessary to ride safely. Most places also have trainer bikes that are small and easy to ride. Then, take said endorsement to your DMV, and you'll get your new license with 'Motorcycle Also' or whatever your state does. I live in Florida, and in July of 2008 they made it mandatory to take the MSF course as opposed to simply getting your permit and taking a 15-minute road course at the DMV. The permit, by the way, was a piece of paper that was valid for 3-months and the only stipulation was that you were not allowed to have passengers. Plus, if you're in a state where the MSF course isn't mandatory, they may give you a break on insurance. Cost of MSF course is $200 and up or so.
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