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    Posted: 30 October 2009 at 7:28pm
OK, with my sit down at home job, I need a good computer for the voice over work, and now map design.

The guys in the UK recommend a "Alienware", and one of my friends suggeted this: Apple-iMac 3.06 w/21.5 display

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Intel® Core™2 Duo processor
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4GB DDR3 SDRAM
For multitasking power, expandable to 16GB.
Slot-loading DVD±RW/CD-RW SuperDrive with double-layer support
Records up to 8.5GB of data or 4 hours of video using compatible DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL media.
21.5" LED-backlit TFT-LCD widescreen display with up to 1920 x 1080 resolution
Features wide 178° horizontal and vertical viewing angles, 320 cd/m² brightness and IPS technology.
500GB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm)
Provides plenty of storage for all of your data with fast read/write speeds.
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics
With 256MB DDR3 SDRAM shared video memory for impressive images. Mini DisplayPort output. Supports DVI, VGA and dual-link DVI connections via optional adapter (not included).
1 FireWire port (800 Mbps) and 4 high-speed USB 2.0 ports
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Built-in iSight webcam and built-in microphone
For video chatting and Web conferencing.
Built-in stereo speakers with two 17W digital amplifiers
For crisp, clear sound.
Built-in high-speed AirPort Extreme wireless LAN card (802.11a/b/g/n)
Allows you to connect to the Web without cables. Built-in 10/100/1000Base-T Gigabit Ethernet LAN with RJ-45 connector.
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard operating system preinstalled
Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more.
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With iLife '09 (iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, iWeb, GarageBand), iTunes, iChat, Front Row, Photo Booth, Time Machine and more.
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This iMac has the ability to partitian HD into a Mac OS and a Windows OS
So can run both OS's. Has more power and security than a PC and will run the graphics software I was sent better than a plain Windows PC.

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Alienware is always the way to go if you can afford it, IMO.
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Alienware makes fantastic laptops, but they're very pricey. It's pretty much the top name brand for gaming laptops. You can probably get equivalent performance to any Alienware at less cost with other brands.
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Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Alienware is always the way to go if you can afford it, IMO.

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I would suggest getting the mac, simply because yes, it's easy to run multiple operating systems. If you're more comfortable with one or the other you could use it more, but especially with your new voice gig, having a mac to play with garageband and such could be fun.

I know I'm biased obviously, but having both is quite nice.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hades Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2009 at 7:55pm
Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

This iMac has the ability to partitian HD into a Mac OS and a Windows OS
So can run both OS's. Has more power and security than a PC and will run the graphics software I was sent better than a plain Windows PC.

Thoughts?



Is a Mac less vulnerable to computer spyware, viruses, and the like, if it is running a Windows OS?

As for the graphic software being better on a Mac than PC, that may have been true 15 years ago but that isnt the case today.

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The Apple you listed is pretty disappointing in terms of performance.  The graphics card is crap and would be a major setback for any sort of serious graphics work.

Are you looking for a laptop or a desktop?  What kind of programs will you need to be running?  What's you budget for this computer? 
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If your cool with Audacity or with pirating some other audio editing software, I would say just build your own, or have a service to do for you. You can make a better performing computer for alot less that a Mac or Alienware. Mac's only real upside are the free programs it comes with and that you don't need to spend HD space and memory on anti-virus programs.
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The grafics program is being mailed from GB so that is an unknown. I want a tower system, my cheapo tower is DOA and I am running off my Toshiba Qosmio now, top of line 2 years ago, now a dinosaur. Towers can be upgraded laptops usually can not be. Sound files that I already submitted were done on the old tower using the XP sound recorder (adjustable), the laptop is Vista and the sound recorder (not adjustable)inhales deeply.

Right now I am doing the American voice commands and dialog, I am also going to be involved in map design (realilistic 1944 France) and vehicle and damage models. Got to take the vehicles and muddy them up, and make em looked used, the M-8 Grayhound model they sent me was "showroom" clean, I am to make them look "well used".

Was told the graphics program they are sending is a simple "photoshop" styled cut and past 3D, I do the initial vehicle and damage models and they will "do the hard programing".
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

The Apple you listed is pretty disappointing in terms of performance.  The graphics card is crap and would be a major setback for any sort of serious graphics work.
Are you looking for a laptop or a desktop?  What kind of programs will you need to be running?  What's you budget for this computer? 


I have a 8600GT in my MBP and I've yet to have a single capability issue doing video, 3D, graphic design, etc.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

The Apple you listed is pretty disappointing in terms of performance.  The graphics card is crap and would be a major setback for any sort of serious graphics work.
Are you looking for a laptop or a desktop?  What kind of programs will you need to be running?  What's you budget for this computer? 


I have a 8600GT in my MBP and I've yet to have a single capability issue doing video, 3D, graphic design, etc.

8600M GT >> 9400M.  In fact, the 8600M GT is just about on par with the 9600M GT, save for being maybe a little hotter.

The 9400M is barely above onboard video quality.

OS, as mentioned above you should really check out Audacity. Windows recorder is fine for basic stuff, but with Audacity you have much more control.  

Given what you've said, I would probably recommend a PC, personally, since they are usually going to give you the best bang for the buck.  The trouble is I've never payed attention to good manufactures in the PC world, so I have no idea who you could order from to get a good deal and good quality.  Alternatively, we could help you put together a computer online and then you just build it yourself if you don't mind the hassle (of which there is relatively little).

With all that in mind, if you want to go the manufacturer route, unless someone knows of a good PC vendor a Mac might be a good choice for you.  As a heads up, unless I am mistaken, the iMac's aren't exactly meant for upgrades (aside from basics like hard drives and RAM), but a mac user would know more about that then me.  Don't get too caught up in the Mac safety thing though.  There are relatively few viruses written for Macs, but you will still need a very decent firewall, since Macs are by no means secure in that way.
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If the program is like Photoshop, there is a high probability it doesn't make use of the video card at all.  Unless it's doing 3D rendering or animations, the likelihood of it utilizing the graphics card is low.

If you own a Mac, you won't need to buy any sort of anti-virus software, the OS X firewall is more than good enough to protect you from the small number of Mac viruses and such on the web.

Personally, I would recommend a PC.  Preferably build it yourself, but if you don't want to go that route, you can get a prebuilt.  I would not go with any of the gaming companies -- Alienware, Vigor, iBuyPower, etc.  They'll rip you off even more than the regular manufacturers.

Upgrading iMacs isn't a problem.  The only difference between an iMac on Intel architecture and a PC is that not all graphics cards are supported by OS X.  A wide enough range are that you shouldn't have problems upgrading, and it looks like we're headed towards someone cracking and releasing the code that all these "Mac Edition" video cards are running on, therefore allowing any graphics card to run in your Mac.
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Don't get too caught up in the Mac safety thing though.  There are relatively few viruses written for Macs, but you will still need a very decent firewall, since Macs are by no means secure in that way.


Glad somebody brought that up. There is nothing about Mac OS that makes it invulnerable to all attacks. The illusion of vastly superior safety with a Mac is just because there aren't nearly as many Mac users out there as there are Windows users so they aren't targeted as much. The fact that malware writers don't often target Macs doesn't mean they are safer, they are just being ignored. However, expect that to change. Mac's have become much more popular in recent years and I'm willing to bet money that the goons writing those nasty apps will gladly start targeting this growing pool of potential victims, especially since they think their systems are invincible and don't bother even thinking they could be infected.
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Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Alienware is always the way to go if you can afford it, IMO.

Maybe if you also enjoy pissing on your money then lighting it on fire.

Suggest no macs either.

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