Phenom Leak

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   A guy on my team just got his new Phenom yesterday. He gassed it up and it shot fine but in between shots there was a small leak coming from somewhere between the trigger frame and the bolt. The gun shoots just fine but he and I were wondering what was wrong. My PMR has similar internals and I have had no problems. We tried it with and without a battery. We tried a full CO2 tank and a full HPA tank. It was very cold outside but we were only testing it. We were outside for 5 minutes at the most. Both tanks worked fine on my 98. We even played with the velocity adjustment to see if that was the problem. 
On a side note: The Phenom has a horribly ugly stock mag and the magwell can only take smg-style mags. I am not impressed with the upgrade potential.

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buhju1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Auf wiedersehen Joined: 26 March 2009 Status: Offline Points: 150	Post Options Post Reply Quote buhju1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Phenom Leak Posted: 31 December 2009 at 3:46am
	A guy on my team just got his new Phenom yesterday. He gassed it up and it shot fine but in between shots there was a small leak coming from somewhere between the trigger frame and the bolt. The gun shoots just fine but he and I were wondering what was wrong. My PMR has similar internals and I have had no problems. We tried it with and without a battery. We tried a full CO2 tank and a full HPA tank. It was very cold outside but we were only testing it. We were outside for 5 minutes at the most. Both tanks worked fine on my 98. We even played with the velocity adjustment to see if that was the problem. On a side note: The Phenom has a horribly ugly stock mag and the magwell can only take smg-style mags. I am not impressed with the upgrade potential.

Rofl_Mao Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member request denied Joined: 27 October 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3210	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rofl_Mao Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2009 at 4:05am
	I don't like the smg-style mags.

Enos Shenk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member ~-o@ Joined: 10 June 2002 Location: A comfy chair Status: Offline Points: 14109	Post Options Post Reply Quote Enos Shenk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2009 at 5:10pm
	I would check for damaged o-rings on the pin that holds the valve in place. The gun has a safety feature that without that pin in place to seal, the valve won't pressurize. But it has 2 o-rings on it, if one is damaged (usually by careless reassembly) you'd get a leak from between the trigger frame and reciever.


buhju1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Auf wiedersehen Joined: 26 March 2009 Status: Offline Points: 150	Post Options Post Reply Quote buhju1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 January 2010 at 1:32pm
	That was it. One of those was cracked already. What bothers me is that we never even took it apart. He took a couple screws out of the front to get the flatline into it. That was it. Thanks

Enos Shenk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member ~-o@ Joined: 10 June 2002 Location: A comfy chair Status: Offline Points: 14109	Post Options Post Reply Quote Enos Shenk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 January 2010 at 8:36pm
	Thats odd, it must have happened during shipping, or just held together long enough for the QA check at the factory. The only thing to remember with that pin is to push the valve down into the gun when you put the pin in, otherwise the o-rings get shredded.


TinMan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 10 October 2007 Status: Offline Points: 1003	Post Options Post Reply Quote TinMan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 January 2010 at 8:45pm
	It's a common oring size too. Apparently it is also used for the optional pressure gauge add on Enos.

chan2dream Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 02 January 2010 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote chan2dream Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 January 2010 at 7:53pm
	Mine had also leaked from the front barrel. I got it brand new straight out of the box. At first when i connected my Co2 to the marker it fired just fine in semi auto, but when I use full auto thats when it started leaking. It was a continuous leak and the only way to stop it is to unscrew the Co2 tank from the marker. Called tippmann and they said to send it back. The 2 year warranty is great and all but to send it back cost money, $22 dollar 3day shipping USPS. I'm just fustrated that I have a defective product. So I sent it and when I recieved it back the x7 phenom had stop leaking. But another problem came up. Now the marker is not responding to full auto anymore. I keep on pressing the trigger 3 times and hold NOTHING and thats with a new battery. I tried resetting the the chip and still it won't respond. When I put the marker back on to semi auto and when I pull the trigger quickly about 4-7 times and after that the marker just squirk out a burst of Co2. Its like having a marker that shoots out snow. I was so upset and I called tippmann about it, and guess what they say again "Send it back in". Thats crazy! I already spent $22 dollar on the first shipping and now another $22 dollar again? I already spent $400 dollar on the marker itself. Later the next day I tried it again to see if the problem would go away and I'm thinking that the Co2 was freezing up the spool valve or the chip itself, but when I pull the trigger it was working fine again. I thought to myself "What the heck is going on" and this is near christmas day so I decided not to send it back yet cause its going to be a long wait to send it to them and to get it back. So I went woodsballing with my friends and as I was playing the marker was also doing the same problems again. Fired a couple shot in semi auto and after that it stall and won't fire or a guss of Co2 comes out. Full auto does the same thing, squirt out crispy icy Co2. I'm going to called them back on monday and see if tippmann can help me again. I had also sent them out an email last week with a sample video of the marker doing those problems I had described, but I have not recieved any response from tippmann yet. I might think about posting it up on Youtube and let you guys see it for yourself. I'm pretty sure someone out there have had the same problem like mine, and I know that your just as upset as I am, and I have been using my A5 without any problems for years. Update: Here is a video link to youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF-jRwYmARI Edited by chan2dream - 02 January 2010 at 9:24pm