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    Posted: 20 January 2010 at 12:23am
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For those who don't know about the prescription drug problem in Florida, we're the world capital for prescription narcotics. It's just getting sick around here, I've had SEVERAL friends die from this crap. Yeah, sure, the police are doing their jobs... but the sick doctors around here who give the pills out are really elevating the problem.

I was in rehab with this dude. Really sucks.
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Perhaps you need different friends.

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Yes perhaps. I didn't know him before rehab.. but he was a pretty good guy in there. We both got out and went separate ways pretty much, I didn't hang out with him because he was using again, but I still considered him a friend.
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Classy, Hades.

Was there no clinic for him to visit?
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Heroin is getting big around here. Seeing it's cheaper than oxy. Had a buddy I haden't seen in a long time, OD about a week ago.
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People I went to high school with (2001-2005) have been dying, attempting suicide, or getting sent to rehab just about every few weeks now. It's disturbing to see all these people I knew for years just destroy themselves. We don't live in a bad area either. Lots of rich people in quiet towns actually. Apparently it's so quiet because everybody is snorting, injecting, or smoking something in their basement all the time. Pretty sad.
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Originally posted by Koolit32 Koolit32 wrote:

but the sick doctors around here who give the pills out are really elevating the problem.


Yeah because all those people demanding all the doctors to give them something now for whatever ails them, even if it's a minor thing that will heal itself, doesn't contribute to the problem at all.

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No, but doctors don't have to give it to them.
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by Koolit32 Koolit32 wrote:

but the sick doctors around here who give the pills out are really elevating the problem.


Yeah because all those people demanding all the doctors to give them something now for whatever ails them, even if it's a minor thing that will heal itself, doesn't contribute to the problem at all.


I went to a doctor with minor back pain in 06 and walked out with a prescription for oxycodone. I didn't demand anything, I didn't know what it was. But I took it because I thought it was going to help. When I went back 2 months later telling him I think I was getting addicted to them, I walked out with a prescription for oxycodone and a prescription for methadone.
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Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

No, but doctors don't have to give it to them.
True, but they'll eventually find another Doctor that will.
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It's a mixture of both. Some people are more prone to addictions and some doctors are way too willing to give out prescriptions.

I'm sorry for your friend Koolit. Addiction is a serious issue and I do believe it's up to the doctors when it comes to restricting prescriptions to issues that will resolve themselves; and recognizing when a patient is embellishing the nature and severity of his symptoms in order to procure medications. The patients are not the informed ones, nor are they the gateway to the drugs. The responsibility lies on those who are authorized to write prescriptions. Sadly, what I'm saying also isn't too easy for doctors, who have to deal with a ton of liability. It's safer for them to prescribe something helpful but unnecessary than to deal with an illness or death that could have been prevented by a prescription drug.
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That is sad. Both for you as a friend of the guy (and his family and other friends), and the officer who has to deal with taking someones life.
 
But, responsiblitiy is the key.
 
Trying to blame others for our own actions is typical today. But, we must take responsibility for our choices.
 
If we choose to do wrong, we need to be willing to pay the price for those choices.
 
It's called personal responsibility for a reason. If you choose to do illegal drugs, or drink and drive. You will end up paying at some point.
 
I remember many instances that I buried friends of mine for their poor choices. It was hard to deal with, but over time you will realize that this is part of our responsiblity as a person. We have to deal with the situations we put ourselves into.
 
Putting the blame on others is just sad.
 
Man up and do the right thing, eliminate situations that put you or others in jeoprady.
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I am sorry of the loss of your friend....well the "person" who your friend once was.
When people get on the legal / Illegal drug train they change, and change alot.  They become something that you usually dont want anything to do with.  In this case it says he comitted a robbery with a gun.  And I am sure there are Dr.s out there that are giving out Rx's like candy.  All in all it is your own responsability to keep your self clean.
 
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I guess it's hard to understand if you aren't an addict, or if you love weapons.

The only "decision" I made to use drugs was the first pill my doctor gave me. After that I was consumed. I stole, robbed, and scammed my way to every drug after that.. which is definitely not my nature. I haven't stolen anything or had a desire to actually hurt anyone in over 2 years (prison and all). I just remember being to the point where a) this will work, and I'll get high or b) this won't work, and maybe I'll OD or a cop will shoot me. Either one was a good enough option.
Yeah I take responsibility for my actions because I did them, doesn't really mean I had a choice in the matter. I tried 3 detoxes and a rehab before I went to prison, and none of them really offered the help I needed. I got piss drunk and wanted to get high my first day out of prison, and wanted to through much of rehab, until I found the help I really needed. Zack was kicked out of the program due to behavior issues (you are supposed to change all your behavior in 6 months, or they put you on the street with a warrant).

And Tolga - I don't think there are any illnesses that these drugs actually cure. The drugs are basically meant for people in like emergency room pain or people with chronic illnesses that don't have much time.
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Doctors definitely give prescriptions out way too easy(except the ones I have seen when I needed a painkiller).

I do get mad at people for even starting drugs to get hooked on them but after that they are still people. It isn't like it is easy to just quit.

Prescriptions are definitely way different that doing illegal drugs too.
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Prescriptions are definitely way different that doing illegal drugs too.
 
How is that?
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Originally posted by Impulse. Impulse. wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Prescriptions are definitely way different that doing illegal drugs too.
 
How is that?

Yes, explain this.  Also, I believe if you are not using them for their intended purpose, they become illegal drugs.
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Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Originally posted by Impulse. Impulse. wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Prescriptions are definitely way different that doing illegal drugs too.
 
How is that?

Yes, explain this.  Also, I believe if you are not using them for their intended purpose, they become illegal drugs.

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Someone that gets addicted to prescription drugs (as in got a prescription and got addicted) is a lot different than someone seeking out something like heroin....
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