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    Posted: 27 January 2010 at 12:45pm
Hello All


iam having acuracy and inconsistient volicity probloms on my tippmann a5 and ideas??? ive tryed new power tube and sacked that. didint work at all will the bolt have any thing to do with this ?


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what are you running?  CO2 or air?
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Hello there iam tuning on air and always have done so, would my tank have anything to do with this as it's only a cheaper one
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What barrel are you using?

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ive got a apex and a flat line barrel flat line tends to be more acruate but then i get more barrel breaks! i think thats down to the paint at the local site tho
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When youre Chronoing your marker, what are the Velocity Readings?
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Hi there it jumps from 250 up to 300 and is all over the place
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I have similar problem also I put on a Flatline barrel and exspansion chamber and my accurrassey is all over the place. I am running CO2 at the moment.  How can I get it to be more consistent.
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If you have a cheap tank, then it sounds like you are using CO2.

A lot of barrel breaks in a flatline is a sure sign that you are using cheap paint.


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Flatlines are not ment to be accurate.
The way the paintball moves is it goes up then down then straightens out. so if thats what your seeing, Thats normal.
Flatlines make the paintball move wierd.
So the inaccuracy your explaining, Unless its straying left to right when it comes right out of the barrel. Thats completley normal.
As far as accuracy goes. Shoulda gotten a Freak Or a J&J.
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Whether youre using the Apex or the Flatline, holding the Marker itself will also affect the balls accuracy.

And as you might already know, the Ramp inside can be adjusted to apply the Back Spin on the ball before it exits and that the housing can be turned in either direction to apply the Trick Shots, that being said, the Shooter has to remember in which Level the Rubber Ramp inside the Apex Housing is positioned.

The same can be said with the Flatline, in which slightly tilting the marker to either side, the ball will curve in the opposite direction.

And dont think that just because the Apex can send the ball further than the Flatline, that the ball is going to hit the target Dead On, because its the same with the Flatline, the further the ball goes, accuracy is lost.

Ive used both the Apex and the Flatline with all my Markers and I only use them to keep the OpFor's Heads Down, not for Accurate Shots...I use a Straight Barrel when I want Dead On Accuracy.
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Originally posted by evil_fingers evil_fingers wrote:

. . . the Apex and the Flatline . . .  use them to keep the OpFor's Heads Down, not for Accurate Shots . . .


Repeated for emphasis.  With a lot of work the F/L can be quite accurate but it will never have the pinpoint accuracy that some of the better straight barrels get.  However, the capability to reach beyond the ranges of straight barrels makes it a very effective fire suppression tool.
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Originally posted by Lord-Catboy Lord-Catboy wrote:

Flatlines are not ment to be accurate.
The way the paintball moves is it goes up then down then straightens out. so if thats what your seeing, Thats normal.
Flatlines make the paintball move wierd.
So the inaccuracy your explaining, Unless its straying left to right when it comes right out of the barrel. Thats completley normal.
As far as accuracy goes. Shoulda gotten a Freak Or a J&J.
Hammerhead is good too.


Okay the paint hooks to the left and slices to the right like a golf ball with a bad swing. Should I use compressed air, or is there a way I can use CO2 and still get good accuracy. As CO2 is more readily available. I did buy a rifled barrel and it did not help so I bought a Flat line because I was told this would help. Nothing seems to work.
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you could get a stabilizer.  the palmer stabilizer can be used with both CO2 and HPA to give you more controlled pressure.
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Originally posted by Indian741 Indian741 wrote:


Okay the paint hooks to the left and slices to the right like a golf ball with a bad swing.
 
Very common with a Flatline that is not clean. If you get a barrel break, with a FL, it is hard to get the barrel really clean without taking it off. Swabbing it in the field is nearly worthless. Using a squirt bottle at the field is a decent short term option, but once you get it home, you will need to take the barrel off, soak it in warm water and detergent and get it really clean. Use battle swaps or something similiar to insure the inside is clean and dry. Be careful not to scracth the inner surface though.
I found the lack of accuracy after getting a barrel break with a FL so bad on my A5 that a lot of times I just put it away after the game that the break occured in and would switch markers. Forget about playing with the FL in cold weather. It's too tough on paint and you will spend more time cleaning your barrel than playing.
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Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Originally posted by Indian741 Indian741 wrote:


Okay the paint hooks to the left and slices to the right like a golf ball with a bad swing.
 
Very common with a Flatline that is not clean. If you get a barrel break, with a FL, it is hard to get the barrel really clean without taking it off. Swabbing it in the field is nearly worthless. Using a squirt bottle at the field is a decent short term option, but once you get it home, you will need to take the barrel off, soak it in warm water and detergent and get it really clean. Use battle swaps or something similiar to insure the inside is clean and dry. Be careful not to scracth the inner surface though.
I found the lack of accuracy after getting a barrel break with a FL so bad on my A5 that a lot of times I just put it away after the game that the break occured in and would switch markers. Forget about playing with the FL in cold weather. It's too tough on paint and you will spend more time cleaning your barrel than playing.
Nailed it.
 
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Sounds a bit like inconsistent air flow...
Might be a power tube issue?
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Originally posted by Starloric Starloric wrote:

Sounds a bit like inconsistent air flow...
Might be a power tube issue?


I thought this also, what kind of power tube would you recommend?

Thank you all for your help. I appreciate it a lot. I am getting some good info here..Thumbs Up

 I believe I am going to switch barrels and I bought a HPA tank.

As far as barrels which is better the J&J or the Freak. I just want simple accuracy. I like one shot one kill kind of thing, as much as possible, want long distance accuracy.
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