98 c won't re-cock bolt

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   I just bought a 98 custom used and when i fire it, the bolt won't completely re-cock itself. i can cock it by hand and it will shoot again, but i still have to cock the bolt by hand until it clicks before i can shoot again. i just put some oil in it and my co2 tank is full, but it's still not working. could it be the spring behind the bolt or what???

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mpound Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 March 2010 Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote mpound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 98 c won't re-cock bolt Posted: 12 March 2010 at 7:54pm
	I just bought a 98 custom used and when i fire it, the bolt won't completely re-cock itself. i can cock it by hand and it will shoot again, but i still have to cock the bolt by hand until it clicks before i can shoot again. i just put some oil in it and my co2 tank is full, but it's still not working. could it be the spring behind the bolt or what???

Mack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Has no impulse! control Joined: 13 January 2004 Location: 2nd Circle Status: Offline Points: 9906	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 March 2010 at 8:47pm
	Check the condition of the bolt o-ring and the sear spring.


oldpbnoob Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Not old, Not noob. May be Dave's grandma Joined: 04 February 2008 Location: Yankee Stadium Status: Offline Points: 5676	Post Options Post Reply Quote oldpbnoob Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 March 2010 at 2:40pm
	Also make sure you aren't overtightening the receiver bolts.
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mpound Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 March 2010 Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote mpound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 March 2010 at 7:26pm
	The bolt o rings and sear spring are in great shape ill try loosening the receiver boltsand see what that does i guess...

mpound Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 March 2010 Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote mpound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2010 at 6:44pm
	i loosened the receiver bolts and oiled it better but it still won't cock after a shot. It is a lot closer though if that makes sense, I don't have to pull it back quite as far as i have been, but it still isn't working. Any other ideas??

Mack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Has no impulse! control Joined: 13 January 2004 Location: 2nd Circle Status: Offline Points: 9906	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2010 at 12:50am
	I guess if you've had it apart recently you could check that the ball detent is installed properly. You should also give us a list of any after-market parts/upgrades.


Jollyroger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 February 2010 Location: Cheyenne, Wy Status: Offline Points: 73	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jollyroger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2010 at 12:25pm
	just an idea. Make sure when you put the rear bolt spring in, that it is in the center hole of the rear plug, if its offset, it may cause the bolt not to travel back. Also check the power tube and front bolt, with the reciever half off and the valve/power tube screwed on, does the frond bolt slide easy? My wifes gun had this problem, we just installed a rufus dawg wicked front bolt and hers was sticking, i had to modfy the tube. if yours is stock you souldnt have to do that. but check it anyways
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Mack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Has no impulse! control Joined: 13 January 2004 Location: 2nd Circle Status: Offline Points: 9906	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2010 at 1:06pm
	^^^ Part of the reason most of us on here avoid after-market internal parts.


Jollyroger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 February 2010 Location: Cheyenne, Wy Status: Offline Points: 73	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jollyroger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2010 at 1:18pm
	very true mack, but its funny, i installed the wicked bolt on three 98's that day including mine. hers was the only one that gave me problems
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mpound Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 March 2010 Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote mpound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2010 at 3:34pm
	actually, i did install a starfire front bolt, I've also got a car stock double trigger and flatline barrel. When you say that you had to modify the tube, what are you referring to?

mpound Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 March 2010 Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote mpound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2010 at 3:37pm
	Oh, and the rear bolt spring is centered. The upper spring is in place as well.

Jollyroger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 February 2010 Location: Cheyenne, Wy Status: Offline Points: 73	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jollyroger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2010 at 6:19pm
	well on the rufus dawg bolt, the bolt is not open like on the stock and star bolt, it is concave to cradle the ball and has a cross in it to direct air al around the ball fo better shots. When the bolt is in the cocked posistion, the cross recedes into the power tube, well, the holes were not cut right on my wifes power tube. it wasnt centered. so when the valve/tube was screwed on, the bolt had a hard time being cocked because it didnt line up. i took an Xacto knife and opened the holes more so the bolt would work properly. You wll not hav to do this with a star bolt. The only other thing i can think of is that maybe you have the wrong pin in the trigger sear. the big black one goes it the trigger sear, and the little silver ones are the reciever pins. but i am not sure is posible to switch these. When you say the top spring is centered too, i am asuming you have ACT. no i am at a lose to suggest anything else. I dont not have act on my gun, so maybe the probem lies somewhere in that system. i dont know anything about it so i cant help you any further
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	Did the marker work before you put the aftermarket bolt on? If so, remove it and see if it works again. Also check the depth of the hole in the car stock to that in the stock end cap. Try putting the marker back to stock and see what happens. Add accessories until it stops working and you have your culprit.
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mpound Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 March 2010 Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote mpound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2010 at 8:26pm
	Okay, i know the sear has the right pin in it, i had my gun apart yesterday. I guess i'll try what oldpbnoob suggested. a friend innstalled the mods so i'll have to get the stock end cap, front bolt, and trigger from him to try that out

mpound Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 March 2010 Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote mpound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 August 2011 at 4:08pm
	ok, i hate to bring up an old post like this, but i realized that i should just to help anyone else who has had this problem. what i discovered was that the double trigger was ultimately the culprit (i still can't fathom why). but when i would shoot it with the double trigger installed, it would take the bar that connects the front and rear bolts and set it further back in the rear bolt. I'm assuming that this made it so there was too much spring pressure on the rear bolt and so it wouldn't re-cock. anyways i removed the double trigger and put the stock trigger back on, then made sure that the arm that connects the two bolts was set in the notch as far forward on the rear bolt as possible and problem solved. I'm still using the star fire bolt and it has worked like a dream ever since. I think that maybe the double trigger shouldn't be used with any 98 c's with ACT. maybe thats something that tippmann should look into, or maybe i just have a fluke gun, but its working well now.